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#1 posted 04-14-2012 08:22 PM


Any good paint that is custom colored uses a clear base to which tints are added to get the color you need. This is true for exterior as well as interior paints, but the exterior bases are where the uv inhibitors are. The base is clear. Oil base or latex, the base is clear. It looks murky when first opened and stirred, like water-based clear, but dries perfectly clear.

Here I use either Porter or Sherwin Williams. I think oil base holds up better, but friends say latex works just as well. At our age, I doubt we will ever be sure which is better. The trick is to get the best paint you can get. Untinted base. Some paint stores are reluctant to sell the base, usually because the salesman is unfamiliar with his product.

I first learned of this in 1971 when I was an assistant Division manager in paint at Sears. On old dude (about my age now—ouch) insisted he wanted untinted exterior base for a lake cabin he’d built. Wanted it to look natural. He invited me up to Jimmerson Lake, close to Goshen, Ind. to see. Looked good. Try it. Untinted exterior base. The higher priced the better.

Lee, I based my assesment of doug fir on what I had read on woodfinder and other such sites. I erred on the side of caution and still wouldn’t use it in ground contact. However, I bow ro your experience and knowledge of the conditioins there.

Lee, as a side note, I need to replace a small retaining wall that had rotted out (landscape timbers) but didn’t want to use treated wood as we grow a fewq vegatables there and I don’t want the stuff leaching into the soil. I was fortunate to find a source of black locust 4×4s reasonably priced and will use that. It’s good in ground contact for 80 years or so. plus it’s stable and beautiful. Do you have any black locust where you live?


-- Steve in KY. 44 years so far with my lovely bride. Think I'll keep her.

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