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#1 posted 12-24-2010 05:14 PM

Having been in new construction and remodeling, both commercial and residential, what you have found and the other LJ’s stories are only the tip of the iceberg. I find code violations all the time in new homes as well as old.
As canadianchips mentioned, even home inspections are no where near perfect. It would be impossible, from a time stand point, to be able to dismantle every fixture to check behind it. Unfortunately these poor work practices, as hazardous as they may be, are not discovered until a renovation is in progress.
As far as I know it depends on the electrical fixture being mounted on whether a box is required or not. If the fixture, such as a bar light, is enclosed then the wire can be connected inside the fixture. If it has an open back such as a sconce, then a box is required. As far as crossing over the stud, that was just plain poor planning on the fixture placement and somebody screwed up royally by crossing over the surface of that stud. Wiring passing through a framing member needs to be at least 1 1/4” from the edge of the framing.
I’m glad you did discover this poor work so it can be corrected properly and avoid a future disaster. It’s depressing when you find it but relieving when it’s repaired.
I don’t even want to get started about inspectors that don’t do their jobs….eehhhh

Edit: As CampD mentioned about the stud bay violation, this is just poor planning on the plumbers part. A good plumber would not run his vent by the center of the vanity location. They would realize a fixture may be located there. Also falls on the builder because he should be orchestrating alll of this.

-- Gary; Marysville, MI...Involve your children in your projects as much as possible, the return is priceless.

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