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Blog entry by recycle1943 posted 11-03-2018 06:40 PM 534 reads 0 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Well, it’ll be 2 years in January and I finally rotated the cutters on my Byrd Shelix cutter head. I probably could have gone longer and most definitely would have except that I planed 30 or so hickory boards from a tad over 1” down to 3/4”. They all varied in width from 4” to 10” and just worked the heck out of my DW735 and the shelix. I didn’t notice any nicks in the cutters BUT I did break 2 of them by not paying attention.
Fortunately when I bought the shelix there was a box with 3 spare cutters. Good thing because I broke 2 and when taking one off of the head it was already cracked from whatever, I’ll never know nor do I care because I had just enough to cover it.
So, it’s back in working order and there is a difference in the sound so I guess it was time. I have some more hickory to plane but there’s only a few right now. However, there is another load at the sawyer being cut right now. The last load was about 400 bdft and this load should be about the same. Don’t have any idea what I’ll do with it bssides store it for my estate.

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them



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robscastle

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#1 posted 11-03-2018 08:46 PM

Dick,
Broken and or cracked cutters are quite common, and from what I have found it may have happened post assembly and pre use. Meaning they have possibly been that way since your purchase. Its a bit of an unknown unless you examine every one closely before use.

I think I have broken new ones assemblying them also, as to why is a bit of an unknown apart from the fact they are very thin and obviously brittle.
You can actually rehone them if you could be bothered, I think David Stanton did a video on the process.

-- Regards Rob

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recycle1943

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#2 posted 11-03-2018 09:37 PM

Rob – this is my first rotation for this cutter and if I get 2 years per edge, that’ll give me another 6 years before I run out of good edges. By then I’ll be 81 and may not be interested or maybe even able to use the planer.
Although when I finished and closed the planer up I came in and ordered a set of 10 new cutters just in case I mess up a few more.
I did notice that the Byrd Shelix is only $363 with free shipping on Amazon – that’s a pretty good price considering I believe I paid nearly $500 for mine a couple years ago.

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them

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#3 posted 11-03-2018 09:55 PM

Since you didn’t whine I assume the rotation wasn’t to bad. Is there any issues with allingment during rotation?

Did you get the larger diameter cutter head (requires removal of all cutters to install) or small version when you did your upgrade 2 years ago?

-- socrbent Ohio

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recycle1943

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#4 posted 11-03-2018 10:29 PM


Since you didn t whine I assume the rotation wasn t to bad. Is there any issues with allingment during rotation?

Did you get the larger diameter cutter head (requires removal of all cutters to install) or small version when you did your upgrade 2 years ago?

- socrbent

Actually, rotatation was a piece of cake. There’s 4 rows of 10 so I did 2 rows, went had a cup of coffee and went back out to the shop and finished. No issues YET – I say yet because I didn’t use a torque wrench, I just tightened by hand like their web site suggests. I used a 1/4” drive ratchet to loosen and tighten and a 1/4” screw driver type handle with a second torx socket to run the threads in and out.

I did get the smaller head and didn’t have to remove all of the cutters for the install. I think in doing that I lose 1/16 of an inch for depth but somebody on LJ’s posted the perfect solution to get that back. Wish I could remember who it was but he just made a riser that sits on the planer table and extends front to back including the wings. Of course you lose that same amount in heigth but you only need it for 1/4 ” stock or less.

Ok – took me a minute to find it but look at this – totally genius http://lumberjocks.com/projects/395945

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them

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#5 posted 11-04-2018 07:07 AM

Dick,
I went looking for Dave Stanton’s video on sharpening/honing but I could not find it.
LBD will possibly know if he sees the reply.

So here is a picture of my broken cutters (as delivered)

As you can see they are cracked on the rear rather than on the front cutting face, all a bit odd.

-- Regards Rob

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#6 posted 11-04-2018 11:25 AM

No Sir, that is not odd at all – to me anyway because the 2 cutters that I broke were broken in the same way and as well, the one that was cracked from factory was in the same place as the others.
I believe it was caused by either too much torque or not being seated properly when it was torqued down. That of course is just my opinion

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them

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#7 posted 11-04-2018 12:21 PM

Did you have to remove the cutter head to rotate the cutters?

-- Petey

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recycle1943

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#8 posted 11-04-2018 02:03 PM



Did you have to remove the cutter head to rotate the cutters?

- Peteybadboy

No not at all – I have a DW735 so all I had to do was take the cover off the top and the vacuum chute off and then the head was exposed. Pull off, replace and rotate – simple

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them

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#9 posted 11-05-2018 11:12 AM

Correct as above.

Now for the torque wrench: The torque wrench I use is a Torpedo 7.

Just ignore the only hand trolley in existance with its own spare tyre, its a long silly story!

-- Regards Rob

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recycle1943

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#10 posted 11-05-2018 11:42 AM

Rob, I haven’t had to use a torque wrench since the early 80’s when my boy and I rebuilt a few small blocks

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them

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#11 posted 11-06-2018 08:20 PM

Hi Dick. Check with Ron Campbell on here. He owns Arizona Carbide and he might sell them!

Cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#12 posted 11-06-2018 08:30 PM


Just ignore the only hand trolley in existance with its own spare tyre, its a long silly story!

- robscastle


I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE STORY Rob :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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