thanks Jerry. I have gotten good advice. I was about to order a Grizzly table saw # G0444 and found out it is a right tilt, the left tilt mate is discontunued for some reason. so I might buy a Shop Fox instead, to get one that size and $. do you think they are good? I can also get a Jet-10 off CL, which would be a good deal I think. any thoughts. I am also getting a band saw G0555. or a simular shop fox. I have to decide today..thanks from Idaho.