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This was a technique I’d been wanting to try for a while—sort of a round dovetail that I dubbed the “fishtail”. It took a bit of setup to be able to cut the joints and they are far from perfect on this first attempt. However everything did line up okay, though some sanding was required to get some of the pins and tails to fit together. And, I didn’t cut the pins quite deep enough—as you can probably see in the pictures they are about 1/32 to 1/16 below the sides of the box. It’s not glued and holds together VERY firmly. I think I’ll leave it that way over the winter to see how much it loosens up.
The woods are cherry and birch [edit—oops, that’s Poplar] (the bottom, which you can’t see, is a scrap of pine).
Next, will come a chest with “Fishtail” drawers.





























24 comments so far
davidtheboxmaker
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posted 437 days ago
That’s different – nice job – how about a blog so we can all give these a try?
Pathpounder
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That’s a pretty cool look. I would also be interested in a how to blog.
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danriffle
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posted 437 days ago
Okay, I’ll work on a “How To”. I’m setting up some better jigs as the initial setup was a bit scary at times.
Cov
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posted 437 days ago
That is a neat look – I would like to see how you do it too. I like the way you used two different colors.
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rtb
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I can think of at least 1 way to make the tails but am at a loss for the pins….please enlighten us thanks rt
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Microsuffer
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posted 437 days ago
Cool experiment Looks similar to the Leigh “Bear’s Ears” scheme. Like everyone else, I’m waiting for the messy details.
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DaveR
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posted 437 days ago
Neat.
I don’t know how it was really done but the pins could be cut using a plug cutter (the non-tapering sort) in a drill press and then a bit of hand work to clear the waste. I can imagine a jig that would fit on the drill press table with some arrangement for incrementing the work. The holes would be drilled by forstner bit to match the plug.
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SteveKorz
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posted 437 days ago
This is a cool joint. I have a Route-R-Joint jig at home that allows similar joinery. You lay one piece flat and cut it on a template with a 1/8 inch vertical spiral upcut bit. Then, the joining piece gets turned 90 degrees where the endgrain is parallel with the table and you cut it with the same bit on a “reverse” matching template. It works good as long as you pay close attention to the setup. Nice job, I like this joint.
—Steve
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rikkor
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posted 437 days ago
One more vote for a blog on how to do this. They look very interesting.
Nippy
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posted 437 days ago
Makes you wonder if the fishtail may be less prone to causing spliiting as there is less of a stress point like a conventional joint?
Any ideas?
Nippy
Bob A in NJ
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posted 437 days ago
Ok, I’ll bite, how did you do this?
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Doug S.
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I’m going to venture a guess on the pins. A standard round tenon cutter on the ends with thicker stock, then plane it to final thickness and establish the flats?? Pretty neat looking however you did it.
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romansfivefive
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posted 436 days ago
how? I gotta know
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ChrisBabayco
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posted 436 days ago
These are very cool. Let me lend my voice to those calling for a blog- I think these would be really neat on a music box for my nieces. Nice job.
brianinpa
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posted 436 days ago
That is really different, but I like the idea! I would love to know how you set it up.
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Rob Drown
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posted 436 days ago
Very cool and intriguing. Ok so how did you make the pins?
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Blake
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posted 436 days ago
Great idea for something new. Imagine opening a drawer on a piece of furniture and seeing that.
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SPalm
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posted 436 days ago
Pretty cool. I also want a ‘how I did it’ blog.
I think it might be easier to always cut the depths a little too deep and then trim the protruding tails with a block plane.
Good job,
Steve
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danriffle
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posted 436 days ago
Yes, yes! The “How To” is coming. I cut some stock to size last night and I’ll set everything up to mill the joints this weekend and post it all next week. I really didn’t anticipate this level of interest—THANKS!
By the way, DaveR & Doug S, you’re on the right track.
RRGR
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Very “bad”. (That’s good now’a days. I know because my daughter said so.i )
ChesapeakeBob
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Good looking box and joints!
We’lllook for the “how to” description.
CB
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a1Jim
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posted 44 days ago
Interesting and unique . I ‘m guessing you used a tenon cutter with a stop system and marked your joining piece and then drilled them out.
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danriffle
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posted 43 days ago
Thanks! I detailed the How To in a blog here: http://lumberjocks.com/danriffle/blog/5934
Thomas
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posted 10 days ago
This is pretty far out.
The surface area of your joints must be astronomical – I wouldn’t be surprised if it never needed glue.