Challenge06....a whole bunch of firsts

Wow, that is awsome. Althought at 80lbs I am not so sure it need to fold, cause I sure as heck wouldn’t be moving it around very often in fear I might actually get some exercise and loose my feminine figure :).
Very nice job.

-- Glenn, New Mexico

LOL…I know…..think of it as folding “for storage”, and not “for transport” :D
The upside is that being as the TREX is all 1” X 5 1/2”, the chair could be built from 5/4 cedar deck boards as well….and weigh around 20 lbs :D

Thanks for the compliment!

Ryan

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This is a cool concept and a nice looking chair. Just tell your clients they need to do 6 months of extreme weight training before they purchase it so they can tote it around. LOL. Thanks for posting.

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Great job!

Thanks for the post

Callum

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sweet!!
I like the transport results as well… (still in one piece)

Awesome

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

Great Ryan. A nice job and congratulations on the upcoming article.

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Thanks everyone :)

Karson~ Thanks for the congrats, but they really arent neccessary….that’s what I do for a living :)

Ryan

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But no reason not be congratulated, on your profession.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

LOL…good point! It IS nice to hear.

Next time I go out of the house I’m gonna start with the mailman and work outwards from there, make a few peoples day :)

Thanks Karson.
Ryan

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ambitious chair… I suppose with the material used and its weight it is probably the only adirondack to suffer no ill if left in place year round.

keep pushing the envelope!

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hahahaa…my very first thought after seeing it was made from TREX was …that thing’s gotta weigh a ton ! I have handled way to much TREX in my career and I have to wonder if after sitting in the sun all day , can you actually sit in the chair without toasting your backside and have they improved it enough to stay smooth to the touch , rather than abrasive after some ” seasoning ”. I was routing a profile on a section of TREX to be used as a handrail on a friends deck when all of a sudden sparks were flying from my router bit …there was a piece of metal buried in the product !!! So much for my bit : (

Nice job on the chair : )

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It’ll definitely outlive it’s hardware! Nice chair Ryan! Needs an end table to compliment it now!

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A table? Oh geeze….another 50 lbs to lug around!

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Wow… just thinking about trying to figure out the pivot points of that chair makes my head hurt…

Great job though, it looks great!

-- As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17) †

“close to 50 hours of modelling and necessitating the construction of no less than four prototypes to get the telemetry correct.” Telemetry? Do you mean geometry?

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Hi Mark…..well, in the context I used it, either would work I guess.
“telemetry” might not be the best word to describe it…but it was easier than saying “Coplanar mechanical interaction” Although truth be told, once the “telemetry” ( I used this to describe arcs of movement across the three seperate planes, all pieces “communicating” (hence the telemetry part) with each other to affect the others course of movement) was established, the geometry was pretty much self dicatating.

Translation: How the heck do I get this chair to pivot in such a way that it folds flat into itself, without hitting anything, and yet maintains the proper angles once erected?

Essentially: The angles of the arms dicatate the angle of the seat which dicates the angle of the backrest which dicates the angle of the front legs which dicatates the angle of the struts which dictates the stationary angle on the rockers…...and you can switch those into any order and get the same result :) Every component is dependant on another component to dictate it’s positioning.

Because of the three different pivot angles, and the differences between seat, back, and arm angles, yet having to have them all work together to pivot to a final angle near 90 (or 0 depending on which way the chair is standing :) ) so they would all lie flat was…well…..”challenging” :)

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LOL

That’s pretty sharp for first thing in the morning :)

Cheers, Don

-- Don Kondra - Furniture Designer/Maker

Can you tell me what part of this chair is wood? Its a great looking chair. I would have to say getting all of it to fit just right so that you can fold it up must have taken a bit of work. The chair looks good. I don’t think I would want to pack it to far from home however. Great job.

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Thanks Guys.

Dave~The wood is in the hinges!
The hinges I used are Roto-Hinge pivot hinges. They are made of two maple rounds with a steel pin running through the centers. Gorilla Glue was the only adhesive I could find that would bond the wood to the composite…and I tried just about everything!

Ryan

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soooooo coool….congrats on such a wonderful achievement…

-- Matt, Napa, CA...fun is beautiful...just trying to have some fun...

telemetry (uncountable)

1. (applied sciences) the science, and associated technology, of the automatic recording and transmission of data from a remote source to a receiving station for analysis

Geometry (Greek γεωμετρία; geo = earth, metria = measure) is a part of mathematics concerned with questions of size, shape, and relative position of figures and with properties of space. Geometry is one of the oldest sciences. Initially a body of practical knowledge concerning lengths, areas, and volumes, in the third century B.C., ...

Both of the above definitions are from Wikipedia but I think others would substantially agree. Canadian Home Workshop is one of the magazines that got me started in woodworking and it concerns me that one of its staff would choose to obfuscate their communication instead of using commonly accepted terms that clearly , and more precisely (in my humble opinion) communicate the concepts under discussion. Is it really coplanar mechanical interaction or several planes of motion intersecting… clarity is critical and adopting new definitions for words does not help clarify a already unclear communication.

Don’t get me wrong Ryan I think it is a great chair and a great demo of what you were trying to do with the composites, it is just that re-defining terms to poorly (IMHO) communicate a concept when a term that more clearly communicates it is already extant concerns and irks me.

I’ll get off my soapbox and try and wind down after my 36 hour shift here…like my daughter says “Daddy gets cranky when he is tired”

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LOL….see, in the big picture, well…it really doesn’t matter. The article is written with pattern routing templates …no methematical terminology involved :).

Regardless, the term was used as it applies to dependant intrerelated mechanicals….more about how intersecting objects move both together and seperately, and their effect therin, as opposed to fixed continums (ie: geometry) but I digress.

Is it really coplanar mechanical interaction or several planes of motion intersecting…

Well, if one plane wasn’t directly effective on the second, you would be correct. However, as the pieces share a physical connection, and movement on one mechanical plane directly dictates the arc of movement on the other (offset rear pivot) it is, in fact, mechanical interaction

Anyway, my university/engineering days are far behind me, and my head is beginning to hurt :)
Thanks for the compliment on the chair, and our magazine.

Cheers,

Ryan Shervill

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my head is spinning… not sure what the correct term for that is! haha

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

vertigo? ;-) Now I am going to bed… G’night :-)

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