Cigar Ash

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Project by trifern posted 08-23-2008 03:42 PM 2101 views 4 times favorited 29 comments Add to Favorites Watch

This is an experiment in finishing techniques. The vessel is turned from Catalpa. It measures 4” tall by 6.5” wide. It is finished with black leather dye, wipe-on poly, liming wax, and Briwax. The next one I will use lacquer to get a better seal on the dye. The dye kept bleeding through and contaminating the liming wax. Although not perfect, I like the subtle gradations of color. It kind of reminds me of some more exotic and much more expensive timbers. Let me know what you all think.

-- My favorite piece is my last one, my best piece is my next one.

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#1 posted 08-23-2008 03:52 PM

I think it’s pretty neat. Exotic I guess would explain it better. Is it done bleeding now after it dried? It looks very much like Gabon Ebony. Very pretty grain Joe.

-- (You just have to please the man in the Mirror) Mike from Michigan -

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#2 posted 08-23-2008 03:55 PM

trifern, I also tool leather. I hope you don’t mind, I’m going to steal your leather dye idea. That looks great !

-- Odie, Confucius say, "He who laughs at one's self is BUTT of joke". (my funny blog)

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#3 posted 08-23-2008 03:58 PM

I like it. The grain just sings out.

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Dennis Zongker

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#4 posted 08-23-2008 04:05 PM

That is beauitful. Excellent craftsmanship! Do you ever sleep? You must have a bed right next to your lathe. LOL. My company does a lot of turning, for are custom furniture. A lot of times we are to busy to keep up with the lathe work. If I sent you drawings would be able to give me a price and lead time and shipping cost, no finishing, We finish each piece here in are spray room. Thanks.

-- Dennis Zongker

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#5 posted 08-23-2008 04:27 PM

oh wow… that colouration and lines is stunning!!!!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (, Young Living Wellness )

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#6 posted 08-23-2008 04:54 PM

Very nice, I like the way the color came out.

-- Glenn, New Mexico

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#7 posted 08-23-2008 05:06 PM


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#8 posted 08-23-2008 05:13 PM

Great piece, Trifern. Ironically, we were just talking last night about experimenting with some black dye on ash lumber for a new project. We think we’ll try your recipe, it turned out beautiful! Any new status on the bleeding problem?... is it still happening?

-- let the chips fly!

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#9 posted 08-23-2008 05:35 PM

It is dry to the touch and general handling. New coats of wax do lift the dye up a bit. I would definitely recommend sealing it with lacquer. I was just too impatient. I did not want to run to the store and purchase some.

-- My favorite piece is my last one, my best piece is my next one.

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#10 posted 08-23-2008 05:59 PM

I love the look if this finish, Joe!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#11 posted 08-23-2008 06:10 PM

wow …i really like the color …i will have to try that some time .Where do you get the dye ??

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#12 posted 08-23-2008 07:08 PM

Jimboe, I purchased the dye from a cobler who runs a shoe repair store in Champaign, IL.

-- My favorite piece is my last one, my best piece is my next one.

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#13 posted 08-23-2008 07:08 PM

beautiful…I have never seen or hear of this wood…very nice…

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#14 posted 08-23-2008 10:09 PM

HI Joe – Again I must say that it looks great!!! Well done, and what a compliment from Dennis!! About the leather dye, I have been using it as touch up in spots for stone work, on black stone for many years. Sometimes the stone has cracks or spots that I need to reach deep in side and make black, I also use the brown in some cases, it’s one of my secrets in my finish work when I need it. Since it is alcohol based, it makes me think of using shellac to seal the pores, and I would try not to soak it, as it enters the pores and will bleed back, as you know. I would use a couple of wipe on coats. I am wondering if you would have a reaction with the laquer if it is not thoroughly dry. I have laquered wood with this on it, but waited awhile to make sure it was good and dry. I hope this helps you. By the way, it’s the same dye as in a sharpie. Is there any alcohol in your waxes?

-- Dan Wiggins

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#15 posted 08-23-2008 11:36 PM

This is very cool! I like the finish.

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