| Project by Brad_Nailor | posted 112 days ago | 528 views | 6 times favorited | 28 comments | ![]() |
Everyone always says that building a deck is an easy construction project…I think that most of the people that say that are either framers (they build entire houses so a deck IS easy for them) or people that never really have built one. I decided to build a deck..well actually it’s two decks. A platform over an existing concrete slab back porch and an adjoining deck. Once I figured out what I wanted dimension wise I did a model of my house and the decks in SU so I could play around with different railings and materials. I thought I would share the design process with you guys as well as the construction… so here are some of my conceptual renderings to work out some design details. These are Podium renders of my Sketchup model…
This first shot is the original idea I wanted..no railings and some custom made benches. The materiel choice at this point was mahogany. The code in my neck of the woods is as long as the deck is below 30” from the ground you don’t have to have railings..
This version, was quickly vetoed by the governing body in my house(the wife). So this next render is my second thought. I wanted to stop the railing on the side facing the fire pit and put a straight section of bench there..
Once I decided on a railing system, I created the railings from the drawings in the catalog of the company that I had chosen. They had a PDF document that had cross sections of all the profiles of all the parts. I copied that onto the windows clipboard and imported it into SU as a jpg. Using the scale tool I manipulated the size of the jpg, measuring a straight section of the railing till it matched the scale of the drawing. Then I traced over the profiles and push/pulled them into components, and assembled the railings. This was great since it enabled me to see EXACTLY what the railings would look like in my mock ups..
This version, again vetoed by the wife. She liked the railings but wanted then to wrap around farther..and she wasnt sure about the upper bench. So here was the next version..
At last…she likes it! Thats why you are starting to see more entourage in the render…since she liked the design I started to put in more detail so it would look more realistic. So then we made another design change. I looked into material choices and decided not to go with wood, but to use a composite material. I liked the idea that it wouldn’t split or crack, and it was almost maintenance free. I was able to get it in a brown color that almost matched my house color perfectly and I went with Azek fascia to cover the pressure treated framing…

The wife really liked the way these looked so with that I took my designs into AutoCAD and did a full set of construction prints. You can take a look at them here in PDF form. The last page has the old renders on it and the conversion to PDF screwed them up. When I walked into the building department to get my permit within 5 minutes, I had three of the inspectors and a few of the engineers looking at my drawings. They were used to people showing up with sketches on napkins. I spent more time chatting with the guys about rendering and Sketchup than I did talking about my project! So with my permit secured I started construction. I had to dig seven 10” dia. pier holes 42” deep..four along the back beam and three along the front. After they were poured I followed that with two yards of crushed stone over weed block fabrick. Never having framed anything before, I enlisted the help of a framer I met in AutoCAD school. I helped him with AutoCAD and showed him how to draw in 3D and he helped me frame the substructure.
The beams are 2 2×8s’ supported on heavy duty beam saddles. All the fasteners and hardware is hot dipped galvanized. On the upper platform the 2×8 joists are toenailed into each beam and there are also hurricane ties along the first beam/joists intersection. There are also joist hangers shear nailed on both ends of each joist and a single row of blocking across the center
The lower platform was 2×6s’ with two rows of blocking and joist hangers at both ends. This one was a little more difficult cause the slab was pitched and I wanted the platform to be level so I had to cut custom shims/wedges from 2×6s’ to support the parts of the joists that weren’t touching the concrete.
My design called for a very clean look with a smooth fascia around the bottom. I mounted the 4×4s’ from the back, rabbeting them so they would sit flush with the fascia..I hate that bolted on from the front look you see on most decks. I used all hot dipped galvanized washers and lag screws driven in and countersunk from the front. The decking I chose was a product called Portico Eclipse. It came with groves milled in the edges so you could use there hidden fastener system so there would be no screw penetrations. My design called for a picture frame around the outside of each platform to help hide the “end grain”. Here you can see the pieces starting to be set in place. They sold the same decking material without the grooves just for this purpose. I glued them down with construction adhesive and countersunk screws. I had to do this with the first and last boards of each run.

Now it was time to install the deck boards. For the first row I had to use my biscuit joiner to cut slots in the solid picture frame board at each joist. Then I placed a small metal winged clip into each slot and screwed it to the joist with a square drive screw that is provided with the fastener. Then the slot in the next deck board fits onto the wing of the row of clips..you have to kinda tip the board up and set all the clips in the groove then lay it flat so it locks in. Then you screw in another row of clips..and so on etc. The clips automatically space each deck board perfectly from each other so you get a real neat and clean look. I also paid a little extra and bought all my deck boards over sized so I wouldn’t have any butt joints..no seams, or penetrations from screws! Here are some progress shots as I installed the deck boards.
The decking actually had a “grain direction” which was indicated by a sticker on each piece. You can orient them in the same direction, but I chose to alternate them..I thought it would look cool..
I absolutely loved the “hidden fastners” look and the way they worked, but they are very time consuming to install! The upper deck had 13 joists so thats 13 fasteners per row, and I think it was something like 42 rows…so do the math! You can see I had received my railings and post covers and I was trying them out for looks as I was working. I bought a plug cutter set and cut a bunch of plugs from some scrap decking. When all the deck boards were done I plugged the holes in the first and last rows so there are no screw holes showing anywhere.
The railing system was Timbertech Radiance Rail. All vinyl, with hidden fasteners. The posts were just regular 4×4 PT, with a sleeve placed over it. Then you slid a bottom trim piece on and then a top cap finishes it off. Then the railing kits come in 6’ or 8’ lengths and they were pretty easy to install.
And here is the finished deck. The lawn is still massacred in these shots, it has since been healed! As you can see I didn’t need the step that was in the original plans.
The fascia is Azek, triple screwed every 16”, countersunk and covered with special caulk made specifically for Azek products. The vinyl lattice was tacked to a nailing strip up under the perimeter joist and just buried and inch in the ground.
We miscalculated slightly when we cut the siding for the ledger, so there was a slight gap, showing the flashing. So I ripped some trim from the leftover pieces and scarf jointed it together along the siding bottom edge.
I had to leave slight gaps for expansion and contraction of the composite materiels. Since it was in the heat of the summer when I built this the materiel was in its fullest expansion state…but I left some 1/16” gaps anyways.
In this shot you can see the vinyl post cover for the post. Overall I am really pleased with how it came out, and although expensive I am extremely pleased with the composite decking. This spring we power washed the whole thing and it looked brand new!
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28 comments so far
woodworm
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posted 112 days ago
From the sketch works to the final installation & finishing, deck building is no joke, I think. It’s no one-man’s job anyway.
You did very well. Very nice looking decks. Congrats. !
When is the barbecue party?
Take care and work safe.
-- Regards, Woodworm
thetimberkid
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posted 112 days ago
Great looking deck!
Thanks for the post
Callum
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Betsy
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posted 112 days ago
WOW! That’s amazing. Great description as well. I can’t imagine the satisfaction doing a project of this magnitude brings with it.
I can also now see why you are so helpful with my SU blogs. You really know your stuff!
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trifern
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posted 111 days ago
Great looking addition to your home. You should be proud. That will provide many, many years of entertainment and enjoyment. Thanks for sharing Brad.
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MsDebbieP
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posted 111 days ago
what beautiful work
the end result is awesome. I bet you smile every time you step out onto the deck
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Dick, & Barb Cain
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posted 111 days ago
A great looking deck, & one thing nice about SU is you can see exactly what it’ll look like,
& make changes to your liking before pounding any nails.
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RAH
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posted 111 days ago
I like seeing all the construction before the final deck boards are on, thats where all the work is. This looks like a nice place to relax.
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john
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posted 111 days ago
Nice work David , You are right ! speaking as a framer decks are very easy , it,s sketchup that is tough .
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Douglas Bordner
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posted 111 days ago
Hilarious title, David. After being drawn in by that, I am bowled over by the post and the project. This is the best deck I’ve ever seen. Kudos to you…and many summers of enjoyment. Outstanding!
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PaBull
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posted 111 days ago
Wow, very nice. The sketches, the planning, the construction, the pictures. You did a beautiful job.
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John Gray
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posted 111 days ago
Super nice!! Thanks for the post.
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spaids
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posted 111 days ago
Man are you kidding me! You are the sketch up MASTER! My SWMBO is pushing for a deck. I’m going to study this project very closely. Great job.
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ryno101
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posted 111 days ago
Seriously… I’m almost as impressed with your SU skills as I am with the end result project! Fantastic!
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john
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posted 111 days ago
David is the Sketch up Master .
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SteveKorz
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posted 111 days ago
Nicely DONE!!!
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Richard Williams
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posted 111 days ago
OUTSTANDING ! Really a terrific job. You have epidimized the saying of “Plan your work and then work you plan.” Terrifically planned and executed. :) Good job buddy.
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Chardt
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posted 111 days ago
Great looking deck! Is the Firepit in the Sketch-up your next project?
I love ours. I used brick and Mortar, and added River Rock around the outside edge. And Everytime we go on Vacation I bring back a rock to add to it. Now we have a bunch from Various islands in the San Juans, Oregan Coast, Mexico, Hawaii, etc. It adds a nice contrast to the stones, and it’s a great reminder of where we’ve been.
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Rxmpo
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posted 111 days ago
You have a great business model just doing the SU work!!! The deck looks fantastic & thanks for all the details.
woodworm
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posted 111 days ago
I’ve tried SU (the free version one). Draw 3D boxes, homes & buildings in simple design.
No idea it can do this far… with detail and sets.
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Brad_Nailor
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posted 111 days ago
Thanks for all the great comments everyone! It was quite a project. I worked on just the construction part of it non stop for two straight months..every day after work, all day on the week ends, and I even took a week of vacation…spent that entire week cutting and installing deck boards and railings! It payed off financially though..I was able to build it for almost cost…and that enabled me to afford all the composite materials. I asked my contractor friend that helped me with the framing and he told me he would charge somebody more than double what I paid in materials! It was actually allot of fun and it helped me gain some confidence in building things bigger than jewelry boxes!

The design part is where I have most of my fun since I am such a Sketch-a-holic! It helps me feel secure when I have all the details worked out on paper. I thought I would share with you guys a few screen shots of the railing development SU work…
Here is a shot of the imported .jpg, with the railing profiles. It didn’t come out but I had the tape measure tool across one of the profiles so you could see it was the correct scale..
here is a shot of the railing prototype ready to be imported into the drawing..

Here is a screen shot of my setup for the finished renders. You can see my backdrops are positioned so when I click on a preset scene tab you will see the backdrop with no edges in each scene. The tabs across the top represent each view I was working with, and some have the railings or benches hidden/showing, depending on the look I wanted.

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brianinpa
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posted 111 days ago
That is an awesome deck. Now go out there and have some burgers and dogs with a few cold drinks to enjoy it.
-- Brian, Lebanon PA, If you aren’t having fun doing it, find something else to do.
Richforever
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posted 111 days ago
Outstanding details, quality, design, implementation, scale! Way to go!!
Thanks for showing all the details.
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CharlieM1958
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Fantastic job, David! How soon can you get to my house? I’ll spring for your beverage of choice. :-)
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Karson
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posted 111 days ago
Great looking job. Be proud of the job that you did.
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clieb91
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posted 109 days ago
David, The deck looks great. Thanks for showing all the work that went into it as well. Had to laugh about the guys down at the permit place.
Hope you enjoy your deck for many years to come.
CtL
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DAN
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posted 109 days ago
Fun posting. Well written and illustrated. Beautiful design and execution.
What is the board foot cost of the decking material ?
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Budgie
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I know what you can do next summer, my deck. Great job. Well thought out.
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sIKE
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My wife likes it. Thanks for the inspector!
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