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Project by Bytesabit posted 09-09-2013 11:53 AM 1503 views 1 time favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Very happy with the outcome of this, now just need to get a 3500 RPM motor or lower the RPM on my old tablesaw motor (5000 RPM).

If anyone knows how, I’d love to hear about it!





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Jim Jakosh

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#1 posted 09-09-2013 12:37 PM

That was a very nice restoration on that jointer. What brand is it? I had one that looked just like it and I bought it from a guy in his 80’s – it was old then and I used it for 40 years and sold it for more than I paid for it. The guy that bought it came all the way from Chicago to pick it up. He wanted that old band name and I can’t remember it.
Mine was on a thick board with a motor mounted next to it. I think it was a 1725 motor and he stepped up the speed with a small pulley on the jointer and a larger pulley on the motor. It gave me great service all those years.
You could not take large cut with it but it did a very good job of straightening wood!
............Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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levan

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#2 posted 09-09-2013 01:33 PM

Nice restore
Google pulley diameter calculator. I have a little 4” jointer that runs around 4000 rpms

-- "If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right". Henry Ford

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Bytesabit

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#3 posted 09-09-2013 04:22 PM

It’s a “National Tools” Model No. 60.
Levan: I did google it and haven’t had success in understanding it all correctly.
My uncle is a mechanic so I’m going to ask him for assistance in that area.

Thanks for the comments guys!

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tefinn

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#4 posted 09-10-2013 12:05 AM

Nice restore! As already mentioned you can step up or down the RPM with the correct pulley.

I found a manual for your jointer at vintagemachinery.org.
http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=240

-- Tom Finnigan - Measures? We don't need no stinking measures! - Hmm, maybe thats why my project pieces don't fit.

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NormG

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#5 posted 09-10-2013 04:08 AM

Great refurb, congrats

-- Norman

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robscastle

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#6 posted 09-10-2013 07:16 AM

Are you sure your table saw motor is actually a 5000rpm? seems very high most are about 2000 to 2800 rpm

That’s at the Motor before pulley gearing attachments.

-- Regards Robert

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Bytesabit

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#7 posted 09-10-2013 11:20 AM

Tefin: :) Thanks for the lookup! That’s actually how I knew it runs at 3500.

RobsCastle: it sais 5000 RPM on the sticker, but I’ll post the picture of the details tonight/tomorrow.

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Kaleb the Swede

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#8 posted 09-10-2013 01:06 PM

I love old machinery restores! That is really awesome work. Great job, maybe post a video so we can hear it fire up, when you get the motor that is.

-- Just trying to build something beautiful

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Bytesabit

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#9 posted 09-10-2013 01:19 PM

Kaleb, will do man! I would post something like that on YouTube, and would be updated on my FB page…

http://www.facebook.com/McGinnsWoodShop

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hunter71

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#10 posted 09-11-2013 12:09 AM

You cant beat the old stuff.

-- A childs smile is payment enough.

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Bugeye

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#11 posted 09-11-2013 11:46 AM

Bytesabit to lower the output speed of your old motor 5000 rpm to 3400 rpm. You just need to run a smaller pulley on the motor than the pulley on the blades. ie 2” on the motor 3” on the blade (this is not the correct ratio) You will have to see what size maximum you can run in the planner and size your motor pulley accordingly. I looked up a ratio calculator and yikes the example ratio i gave is pretty much bang on. So hopefully you can get a 3” pulley in the planner.

-- When I think of something witty or wise I'll add it here!

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Bytesabit

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#12 posted 09-11-2013 11:54 AM

Bugeye

Perfect! How did you calculate the ratio? The sites I’ve found or have been directed to don’t seem to work or make sense to me.

Funny thing is, the jointer has a 2” on it.. so I could replace with with a 3” and put the 2” on the motor.

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Bytesabit

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#13 posted 09-13-2013 09:51 PM

ok I think I have it figured out! Haha, one more question.. does the belt length affect anything?

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tefinn

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#14 posted 09-14-2013 05:07 AM

Belt length doesn’t matter unless you have a fixed motor. All my tools that have separate motors like yours I fixed the motor to a hinged wood base. This way the motor tensions the belt, like on a lot of contractor table saws. It also helps to use a link belt. I get mine from HF.

-- Tom Finnigan - Measures? We don't need no stinking measures! - Hmm, maybe thats why my project pieces don't fit.

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Bugeye

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#15 posted 09-22-2013 12:19 AM

Its a little slow on the reply but i found this link to be helpful Bytesabit.
Set driver pulely to 2 and driven to 3 then set input rpm to 5000 (saw motor speed) and click calculate

http://www.csgnetwork.com/pulleybeltcalc.html

-- When I think of something witty or wise I'll add it here!

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