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Project by Gibernak posted 05-28-2013 03:26 PM 1994 views 2 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch

So I just finished my latest project: Two sawhandels and backs. I originally bought the blades for making some western still saws because I did not know the differens between japanese saws and western, but when I realised (i’m a noob I know), I thought i’d make them more like japanese saws and I think that the these handels give me freedom to maneuver the saw.

I’v never had a saw like these before, I’m amazed by how fast and clean they cut. They are dozuki type of blades so very thin and they need backs to work.

I made them from small pieces for scrap wood, like an old chopping board, a foot panel and other stuff, so I’m not sure what types of wood I’v uses, some mahagony and beech I know. And I also wanted to experiment with combining different woods. The backs are copper and brass.

So now I’m kinda ready to learn to make dovetails





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tyvekboy

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#1 posted 05-28-2013 03:50 PM

Nice Work. Japanese pull saws are my favorite. Never thought of making my own handles. Good Idea.

-- Tyvekboy -- Marietta, GA

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jimmyb

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#2 posted 05-29-2013 12:27 AM

hmmmm, so if i make a back for my japanese saw it will stop the blade from bending???

-- Jim, Tinley Park, IL http://jbuda.net

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SafferinOz

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#3 posted 05-29-2013 02:13 AM

Great handles, I really love my Japanese saw!

-- Stephen, Perth Western Australia, My inspiration – the Carpenter from Nazareth!

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Gibernak

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#4 posted 05-29-2013 10:52 AM

Hi Jim, As far as I know it depends on the type of Japanese saw. These are the duzuki type and they are 0.3 mm. It almost impossible to saw with them with out a back, and when you buy the whole saw it has a back. I just had to make my own because I only bought the blades. Other Japanese saws are called Kabata and they are thicker, 0.5 mm, with only a short back and some are called Ryoba which have two saw sides and no back. But in general they are all very thin so I guess they bend easily if you aren’t careful on the push stroke.

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woodcox

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#5 posted 05-29-2013 03:38 PM

Very nice work. I have a set of Vaughan blades and handles but, the mfr doesn’t provide backs for their fine cut blades. Also, the handles are plastic and rubber. I shall try your solution. Do you have a preference between the two metals?
Looks like a fine work bench by the way.
Tak for deling.

-- "My god has more wood than your god" ... G. Carlin.

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crank49

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#6 posted 05-29-2013 04:02 PM

There is one other style pull saw that is my favorite. Not sure if it is a Japanese saw or a western derivative of a Japanese saw. Mine was made by Jorgensen, which is an American tool manufacturer, but it has the Japanese style, triple grind on the teeth and a very thin blade.

The thing I like about this design is when you pull the saw, the angle of the handle directs down pressure on the cutting plane and it is more comfortable to me and easier to keep a straight line.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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Gibernak

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#7 posted 05-29-2013 04:22 PM

Thanks, yes so far I think brass is the best, it more stiff than copper, which more easily bendes sideways and the blade follows the line of the back. And the brass one was easier to make, its made from an anglerod/thing and I just flattend it in the vice. But the copper works quite well. It has not bend while I’v been using it. It was only in the process of making it I found it a bit to soft.

The bench :) yes it a very small school bench as all danes remember them from woodworking classes. ill take some shop pitures soon.

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Gibernak

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#8 posted 05-29-2013 04:30 PM

hi Chrank49 there seem to be good logic in that, im planing to make a some without back, the kabata type, I think ill try to make a handle like that.

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waho6o9

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#9 posted 05-29-2013 04:42 PM

Beautiful work Gibernak!

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Fishinbo

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#10 posted 05-31-2013 06:11 PM

Cool Japanese saw! Great shape and wood combo on the handle. Learned something new today. Thanks for sharing. Great job!

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Anapolis7

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#11 posted 06-02-2013 12:45 PM

Just to weigh in on the Japanese saw discussion, I went a different route that is kind of sneaky, but it works great. I have, I think, four bow saws and a frame saw that I built last summer. Most of them have western style rip/crosscut blades, but I did get one of the Turbo-Cut Japanese blades from Highland Woodworking. The main thing that I like about this solution over my other Japanese saws is the depth of cut. Short of cut some sort of insanely large tenon or dovetail, you can cut almost anything. Just watch out, they are SUPER sharp.

http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/turbo-cutbladeforclassic400framesaw.aspx

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