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Another Plane Attempt - Krenov Influenced

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Took another shot at a small plane after my last one ended up only looking pretty. The iron wouldn’t stay put, the sides were too thin, and the crosspin was poorly designed. I abandoned the Wood Magazine Plan as I’m not sure how they got that design to work for them. I went after a more traditional “Krenov” style design. I found resources from Fine Woodworking, Popular Mechanics, and the many projects posted here. I really should get his literature one day.

Anyways, there was once again several errors, but I’m happy to say that they luckily were overcome. The most blatantly apparant is near the walnut crosspin. I initially misplaced the location for the crosspin and had to plug that hole with another scrap of cherry. Oh well. I was extremely careful this time to make sure the blade ramp was perfectly flat and square to the sides. I oversanded the sides a little as a result. I had to grind the iron and breaker slightly narrower. The walnut crosspin has one flat side to it that is parallel to the iron. This made the wedge hold the iron very secure. Last time I had a round metal crosspin and it wouldn’t hold the wedge.

In flattening the walnut sole I got a little overboard and the mouth is slightly larger than I was aiming for. I might attempt to close it with a glue up, but am worried what wood movement might do as a result. So far, I don’t think it’s an issue. Time will tell.

I have done VERY little shaping. I’m going to do it as I go this time as suggested by many. I’ll have to see what works with my hands and go from there. Not used to using wood planes yet.

The plane is aobut 7”L by 1 3/4”W by approx. 2”H. The iron is in the neighborhood of 1 5/8”.

Little wax on the bottom. Left the rest untouched.

-- Jeff, South Carolina


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ChicoWoodnut

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posted 125 days ago

This is a nice little plane. I really like that round attention deficit inspired design detail up by the walnut crosspin ;)

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net

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Davesfunwoodworking

222 posts in 365 days


posted 125 days ago

great little plane. I like the look of the plane I made one like this but out of brace. I like how fun making planes are. What a great way to take out the stress of the day. Great job.

-- Davesfunwoodworking

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WayneC

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posted 125 days ago

Very nice. There is a standard method of closing the mouth. You can chisel out some material and put in a square patch of wood. I’m assuming your reference above was to add wood across the entire sole.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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EdC

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posted 125 days ago

I hope this plane performs as good as it looks. We learn from our mistakes with any luck at all.

-- Ed Collinge- Edmonds, WA.

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GaryK

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posted 125 days ago

Nice looking little plane. Let us know how it works out for you after you have used it for a while.

-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.

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Scott Bryan

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posted 125 days ago

Jeff,

This is a nice looking plane. I do like the cherry detail that you added to it. :)

Thanks for the post. Let us know how this one works out for you.

-- With God's help all things are possible- even woodworking. Woodworking is not just a hobby, it is an (expletive deleted) expensive hobby.

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YorkshireStewart

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posted 125 days ago

Delightful Jeff; just asking to be picked up! Waiting for some word on the shavings!

-- Res severa verum gaudium - True pleasure is a serious business.

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USCJeff

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posted 125 days ago

Not exactly Wayne, I meant adding wood to the front ramp. I think I could add a thin block to the front ramp that extended through the mouth. I could then sand if flush to the sole. My concern was the differing grain directions. The sole shouldn’t move much given it’s walnut which is pretty sound. I worry that the patch might move differently than the rest and perhaps produce problems down the road. I suppose I could just true the sole more often.

-- Jeff, South Carolina

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Texasgaloot

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posted 125 days ago

If only it was so easy to close the bosses’ mouth with a simple glue up…

Keep after it, Jeff! We’re learning a lot!

-- There's no tool like an old tool...

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Dorje

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posted 125 days ago

Great little plane you’ve made here. I’d stay away from gluing in a “patch” on the ramp (mixing grain directions), but rather do as Wayne suggests, by gluing in a patch on the toe side of the sole to close up the mouth. If you use the same wood species, with similar grain characteristics, there should be little to no concern about movement. This is the standard way to close up a mouth on a plane that has had a lot of flattenings, in turn opening the mouth to an excessive degree…

Looks like you’re having a lot of fun with plane making!

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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griff

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posted 124 days ago

Great looking little plane.

-- Mike, Bruce Mississippi = Jack of many trades master of none

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Dorje

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posted 124 days ago

Also, since this is made from scrap cherry, which isn’t the hardest wood for a plane, you could laminate the bottom with thin laminate of a harder, longer wearing wood, and recut the mouth opening…

I’m probably preaching to the choir, but it’s just fun to talk about!

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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USCJeff

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posted 124 days ago

Yeah, I was aware of Cherry’s shortcomings. I have a lot of shorts of Cherry at the moment as well as I knew this plane was unlikely to be a keeper as it was a first shot at the design. I did use a walnut sole, which is stronger, but still not strong as compared to many others. I have enough cocobolo to do a similar plane, but I’m holding off until I am comfortable with the process. A little pricey for my shop.

-- Jeff, South Carolina

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SteveKorz

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posted 124 days ago

Nice Lookin’ Plane, Jeff!

I’m going to try my hand at one of these some day, it’s nice to hear everyone’s stories when they make one. Thanks for the post!!

—Steve

-- As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17)

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jockmike2

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posted 124 days ago

Looks like a good one to me Jeff. mike

-- Mike. Profisher50@yahoo.com

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Kipster

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posted 122 days ago

Jeff, I appreciate your willingness to experiment as you go. The best way to learn, for you and all the jocks paying attention.

THANKS FOR THE POST

-- Kip Northern Illinois ( If you don't know where your goin any road will take you there) George Harrison

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