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Project by ldl posted 03-11-2013 03:08 PM 1622 views 0 times favorited 18 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I posted in the forum section about these bowl I cracked and got some excellent info.

This is my first attempt at trying to turn to a less that one inch thickness. These are about 3/8 thick. The first cracked when I got a catch. The first pic shows the first crack. I tried to repair by drilling and inserting a dowel across the crack. That didn’t turn out to good as you can see. Later (not pictured) I got another catch and cracked it a couple more places. I super glued it in all the cracks and very carefully turned it the next day. I sorta saved it but you can see the several cracks.

The natural edge bowl just busted down the middle. It had an irregular joint but it fit back together fairly well. I super glued it back together also and carefully turned the next day. I was leary of the wings because of the cracks so I didn’t get all the glue line out.

My niece says all the bowl I mess up she wants so I tried these repairs to see if I could and I gave here the bowls.

The bowls are pecan that I dried in the microwave.

-- Dewayne in Bainbridge, Ga. - - No one can make you mad. Only you decide when you get mad - -





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ghost5

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#1 posted 03-11-2013 03:56 PM

It happens and at that thickness it is worse. You can try turning thinner which worked great for me. Took care of probably 80% of the cracks I was getting. I’m sure others have said but I would look at filling with epoxy and some sort of filler like dried coffee grounds or mica powder. Just a thought.

-- Tommy, http://www.followingghost.com

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ldl

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#2 posted 03-11-2013 05:15 PM

Tommy just about everything I am doing now is relatively new to me. I am in the process of learning how to sharpen my tools. First time trying to turn thin sides on dry bowls. Getting used to bowl gouges, skews and scrapers in general. My previous experience was with spindle gouges back in the 80s & early 90s. Never turned a bowl before now. So much is new and my ole sponge is bout full. I am looking at all advice and trying to find my way of doing it. I think I have finally got a handle on the sharpening thing though.

I have read and watched videos where people used epoxy etc just didn’t think about trying it. Maybe next time. Actually I don’t have any epoxy on hand. I’ll have to get some. It probably would have been a stronger bond.

Are you saying you turn them thinner green? I am trying a lot of things different now so I will just about try anything.

-- Dewayne in Bainbridge, Ga. - - No one can make you mad. Only you decide when you get mad - -

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hunter71

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#3 posted 03-11-2013 05:35 PM

Cracks are a part of turning for me. My granddaughters play house testifies to that. They get most of them. The wood stove gets the real bad ones.

-- A childs smile is payment enough.

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ldl

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#4 posted 03-12-2013 01:31 AM

Well Doug maybe I’m not doing so bad after all.

I am drying another bowl in the microwave so I can do some more practicing sooner. Curiosity has got the best of me and I want to see how my tools werk now on another dry bowl.

-- Dewayne in Bainbridge, Ga. - - No one can make you mad. Only you decide when you get mad - -

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peteg

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#5 posted 03-12-2013 01:49 AM

A bit of a bummer with these Idl, I did a small plate abot 10+ ago which did the parting trick as well & I thought rather that try to glue it make a feature out of it, so I had some flat copper staples they use to hold lasgre appliance cartons to gether & I used these to stich across th crack, my wife like it and has had it in here office since

Hope the pic comes out as I don’t use phopbucket very often.
with the glue staining you can normally get around that by sealing the plate with spray on schelac or similar & the glue wont tend to discolour, however I must admit I have never played with pecan.
you ahve nothing to loose by having a play
cheers
pete

-- Pete G: If you always do what you always did you'll always get what you always got

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essexry

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#6 posted 03-12-2013 12:54 PM

copper staples, never would have thought of that, thats a pretty interesting look for a cracked/repaired piece. very good idea, i’ll have to save some next package i get that has a few.

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ldl

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#7 posted 03-12-2013 02:04 PM

Good idea for a save. Maybe next time try shoe laces huh? Haaa Haaa

I think maybe I have had tunnel vision thinking cracks were only happening to me. I have been trying so many new things so fast I have been overwhelmed. I feel better after last week learning a few things I was doing wrong and how to correct them. Still so much still to learn though.

Great sight and great help.

Thanks

-- Dewayne in Bainbridge, Ga. - - No one can make you mad. Only you decide when you get mad - -

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LesB

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#8 posted 03-12-2013 05:07 PM

One way to sharply reduce the possibility of catches when turning bowl is to use one of the hollowing tools like a Munro. You can adjust it to limit the amount of wood it removes and because it slices the wood there is less tear out. It has reduced my catches to zero. They are not inexpensive however; about $250. Also they now come with carbide cutters which stay sharp for a long time. Packard Woodworks Inc has them. Check their web site. There are a couple of other makers of similar tools but I have been very pleased with Munro.

-- Les B, Oregon

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woodturner82

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#9 posted 03-12-2013 05:52 PM

I know there is a lot of.learning curve to bowls, but my best advice to you gentleman is to take a.class. I tried by trial and error for a while and.the frustration will almost get to you. Books and videos are great, but they can’t observe the sights.and sounds of what you are doing and correct you. I took a class at woodcraft and that was the best 8 hours and 145$ I’ve spent on woodturning. Well worth the experience.

-- riddleridgewoodworks@gmail.com

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ldl

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#10 posted 03-13-2013 03:15 AM

Les that’s a little steep for me right now. Just bought my lathe and several tool lately. Thanks for the tip and I will keep it in mind though.

Woodturner82 I would love to take some classes but my wife & I keep her mom and my mom both 88 and wheel chair bound so don’t have time. There is a turners club about 50 mls from me but the same thing I don’t have time. We have help during the day but the help leaves about 4:00. am retired so I could go to the turning club monthly meetings if they met in the daytime but they meet at night when we have no help. I’ll just have to keep going like this till something changes.

-- Dewayne in Bainbridge, Ga. - - No one can make you mad. Only you decide when you get mad - -

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LesB

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#11 posted 03-13-2013 06:19 AM

Woodturner 82 is correct. So if you can’t make it to a class or meeting why don’t you try contacting them and explain the problem. I bet someone there would be willing to come to you. You are 3000 miles from me or I would offer.
Les

-- Les B, Oregon

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ldl

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#12 posted 03-13-2013 11:18 AM

Thanks for the suggestion I hadn’t thought of that. Good idea and I think I will try it.

-- Dewayne in Bainbridge, Ga. - - No one can make you mad. Only you decide when you get mad - -

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woodshaver

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#13 posted 03-13-2013 12:37 PM

I don’t even have a lathe but this sure is interesting! You guys are having too much fun! :)

-- Tony C St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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ldl

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#14 posted 03-13-2013 05:41 PM

Always have fun just sometimes more. Challenges come and go but I try to stay positive and werk my way through them. Boy ain’t I philosophical. Life wouldn’t be fun if everything was smooth sailing all the time.

-- Dewayne in Bainbridge, Ga. - - No one can make you mad. Only you decide when you get mad - -

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StevenAntonucci

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#15 posted 03-13-2013 11:34 PM

Gluing the bowls back with CA glue is dangerous, especially if you are still learning to turn. CA glue is pretty useless in shock situations like with a hard catch, and is likely to let loose and become airborn. Highly recommend that you spend a lot of time on Youtube watching some videos to get some help if you cannot get to a club. I have a couple, and John Lucas is another competent turner from TN that posts things from time to time.

-- Steven

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