Hickory Coffee Table with Walnut Raised Panels-FINISHED

LOL. Had to look twice. : ^ ).

Looking good so far.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

obi…you’re pics upside down, looks great though

-- Cheers

So is it sold yet.

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you are a brat!

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That does explain how you get your work done with all that wood all over the floor. Nailed all the tools to the ceiling. ;)

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1) The picture is NOT upside down… the camera was when I took it
2) Yes it is sold. I’ve been given $900.00 for it so far, and $300.00 due upon completion
3) that’s MR. Brat to you, Dennis
4) Scottie B … I don’t do anything normal. I also put all the wood bins on the ceiling so I could walk around easier.

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and it’s looking beautiful!! I can’t wait to see the end result.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

Nice raised panel mike. Nice figure to the walnut is the wood on the sides hickory or is it pine? It’s gonna look great when you’re done, can’t wait to see it, so hurry up. Hey mike is that a wood jig for making dovetails beside the clock? mike

-- Mike. mwurm13@yahoo.com

That looks like a scene from the Mickey Mouse movie Fantasia. Do you have brooms cleaning up your shop while you’re working?

-- There are three types of people in the world, those who can count and those who can't!

Well, after I got my dowel maker I made several dowels, and a Genuine Mahogany Wand, and I waved it around the room and said “Rediculas” like in the Harry Potter movie, and viola, there you have it.

Mike, Pine is too soft to use for anything except fire wood. I was going to make 4 gun carts and one of them was out of some free pine I got, and now I dont even want to do that. I DID make a pair of night stands out of some birdseye Pine and gave them away.

PINE SUCKS

And Thank you Debbie. This piece may very possibly be my best work to date, and I want it perfect.

Mineral Oil to fill in the pores and bring out the grain, and then several coats of Lacquer.

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Nice table. I can’t wait to see it finished and on the floor (if that is where it is supposed to go). Maybe it is a coffee ceiling table? kidding

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

that’s awesome Obi. Rediculas, but awesome.

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Mr. “Apron” OBI. Thanks for sharing before it is complete. You have some great detail in that table.

BTW, if Shaquille Oneal was a dinner guest you would not have to lower the table.

-- Fred Childs, Pasadena, CA - - - Law of the Workshop: Any tool, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible corner.

“1) The picture is NOT upside down… the camera was when I took it” -Obi

I’m confused, wouldnt this still mean the picture is upside down? I’m not even going to touch on why you’d take a picture with an upside down camera…

now for the most important part, Table looks AMAZING obi, great job

-- Cheers

Shawn the table was upside down, so I had to turn the camera upsidedown to show it right side up

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Actually, you took that photo for the jocks down under!

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NOW I GET IT OBI!!! I’m cleary just slow today

-- Cheers

I think Scott hit the nail on the head. Think Obi needs to make another one out of some that nice red cedar we saw the bandsaw boxes made out of the other day.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

Nice work, Obi, I especially like the levitation technique! LOL.

-- CanuckDon "I just love small wooden boxes!" http://www.hilsbiblechurch.org/

It looks real nice no matter which way you look at it. It just takes awhile to adjust your your mind to what it will look like on a floor.
I like things with a variety of different wood.

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It took me two days to understand what I was looking at,nice job!!!!!!

-- Phil, Chattanooga,TN

I took some more pictures yesterday, but left the camera at the shop. I’ll bring them home today and help you all see the vision

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Is this better?

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I know it’s a work in progress. But will the top be hickory or walnut or ???? What do you have in mind right now?

-- Paul, Texas

You mean I’m not in Australia anymore, much better.

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a beautiful table is a beautiful table – no matter which way you look at it!!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

It looks like you have rails and stiles around the walnut and than another rail and stile around that.Am I seeing that right?

-- Phil, Chattanooga,TN

You have a face frame, with the raised panel door inside of it.

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Did’nt mean to offend you buddy, I don’t like pine either for building. Makes good fires though. It is gonna look awesome when it’s done. mike

-- Mike. mwurm13@yahoo.com

I liked it better the Aussie way! LOL

-- CanuckDon "I just love small wooden boxes!" http://www.hilsbiblechurch.org/

Pine!

Don’t you guys be burning down my house you…you…YOU wood snobs!

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I won’t be Dennis
I was just talking to Rick about covering our living room walls with the rough-hewn pine that we got. Ok.. smoothed perhaps, but still the rustic pine look.
Maybe something like your house, Dennis!! I’d love it.

I was talking to a friend last week about home decorating and we talked about how we really wanted our homes to look one way but when we start putting things into it they turn out to be a totally different style. She wanted rustic and ended up with modern. I like modern but am ending up with rustic.
We might “admire” the look of a style; we might even “love” it.. but in the end, there is an underlying connection with something else. I’m just a country girl through and through. Give me old, give me rustic, give me comfy cozy any day.
Last week I took down a beautiful mirror and hung up this old mirror from Rick’s home. It was painted a light blue and has white paint dripping down the sides, and some spots where something has been dripped on it, removing the paint (It had sat by the laundry tubs for decades.) I love this mirror!!!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

How did you make those walnut panels Obi? They look larger than you would get on a router.

Is that a walnut frame and panel inside another hickory frame?

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

Walnut raised panels walnut stiles/rails hickory frame

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I see thanks, It looks great!Very nice I love the wood contrast they look great together

-- Phil, Chattanooga,TN

Now all of those early statements aren’t going to make sense to anyone who is new to this. They’ll think “What are they talking about upside down?”

This is taking extra long because I:
1) Have to make all of the drawers out of 1/2” Hickory, dovetailed and dadoed.
2) Have to glue all the 1/2” hickory together because none of it was wide enough.

Maybe this will be good enough for the Summer Competition

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Nice start, Obi. I look forward to seeing your coffee table completed.

-- Jesus is Lord!

“maybe” ??? !!!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

That’s what i thought about the winter competition until all the finalists showed up with their fancy inlays and unheard of curly quilted woods…

I can’t compete with that.

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oh yes you can!!!

This is looking b-u-t-ful!!
(and no, that it NOT “BUTT FULL” )

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

Drawer sides have been cut and tomorrow after church is a dovetail day. I should have the two center drawers finished by the end of the day. And there are no “store bought” drawer glides. I’m going to dado the sides of the drawers and run a thingy to guide the drawers.

Anybody know what them drawer guide thingy’s are called?

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they are “whatchyamacallits”.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

Drawer guides?

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

7 coats of Lacquer on the top… then I stuck my finger on it…But I can fix it. Three more coats tomorrow and i should have pictures posted on Wednesday.

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Beautiful coffee table, Obi. What dimensions? I look forward to seeing the completed project.

-- BarbS, Wenatchee WA

it’s 26” wide 48” long and about 17” tall. I just looked at the pictures I took last night, but the film in my digital camera got exposed… ruined all the pictures… None of them had the right angle and so I’ll take some more today after the final coat of lacquer, or tomorrow.

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It is Finished. Go here for a bigger picture

I couldn’t find the little figure 8 thingies Marc was showing on his podcast and I bought L-brackets but didn’t want to use them, so I “settled” for 20 walnut dowels to hold the top on.

And here to see a better view of 8 coats of high gloss lacquer

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Thumbs UP!!!!

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Looks nice… but now all our old comments don’t make any sense! (which is kinda funny)

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

If you notice Scottie, the comments that don’t make sense are everybody else’s.

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Obi,

That turned out really nice. You could use wood clips to hold the top on also. Like these
They work really well or you can use metal off set clips you can get from a picture frame shop.

-- Max "Desperado", Salt Lake City, UT

I like these… they look like something I could make

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B – U – T – FUL
WOW.

Bravo, Obi. Bravo – you must be extremely proud

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

Beautiful Obi Nice job. But, they are just sticks, right. But put together in the right combination does wonders.

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Obi,

For future reference, Lee Valley has the figure eight fasteners you were talking about…

-- Ethan, http://greystonegreen.blogspot.com/

Thank you everybody for your nice comments and thank you Ethan for the Clips… I wasn’t even sure what they were called and I watched Marc using them, but they were not to be found at the big box.

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Beautiful Obi
Now you’ll have some time for Thorsen maybe.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

Big Box Lumberpedia n.
referring to the place that brags on having all the things you need to build your projects, but always comes up short

Wiki… just another four-letter-word

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Nice job Obi. Wow, 8 coats of lacquer, that is amazing. Did you spray or brush it on? I have a hard enough time with 3 coats of anything, and sometimes get runs.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

I used my airless and only spray it when it’s flat, so I try to spray one side then sanding it using (so far) up to 600 grit after it dries. And after I got past the Oil & 150 grit as a finish, my results improved 100%

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Great Job Obi! The walnut came out beautiful.

-- Greg - Charles Town, WV

Yes, I need to try spraying on my projects.

Did you make yourself a spray booth, or just spray it outside?

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

Beautiful work Obi. Is the Thorsen table done yet? (sorry, just kidding!) Congrats on your new piece. It’s just terrific!

-- Better to say nothing and be thought the fool... then to speak and erase all doubt.

Maybe this is Obi’s Thorsen table? A different interpretation for sure, but who knows?

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

O.K. 3/4 ” Hickory top, oiled with mineral oil then sprayed with 8 coats of high gloss lacquer.

Walnut Raised Panels, walnut dowels to secure the top Octagon Hickory legs. Hockory Drawers dovetailed.

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Be real careful with that finish for a couple of weeks. I found out the hard way. It takes awhile for the Lacquer to harden up. Don’t put anything heavy on it.
You may already know this though.

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iF THEY SCREW IT UP, THEIR MONEY’S GOOD.

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A nice job Obi. I am sure they will love it for years to come.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

OBI you need to be careful useing dowels to hold the top,it does not let it move.A big top like that will split,you dont want all your hard work to go down the drain!!!!!Thats why the clips and other thing are used.BTW very nice work

-- Phil, Chattanooga,TN

Let’s see, I’ve built 12 tables so far and have yet to have any of them do anything.

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Hey, I am just trying to help. No need to get mad. furniture making 101. wood expands and contracts therefore if you have two boards meeting crossgrained you can’t glue you must let it move. Why do you think they make wood clips and figure eights to fasten table tops they are not just for looks there is a reason be it.I know you have made 12 tables but it takes time mark my words if you secured the tops that way on all of them they will all split.This website is to learn about woodworking from other woodworkers and that’s what I was trying to do. Just help

-- Phil, Chattanooga,TN

I’m greatful for the information. I haven’t made any tables and am just learning about this wood movement stuff.

Thanks for the info Phil

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

Phil,
I don’t see where you got a “mad” in there,I don’t get mad.

So how long or how big does it have to be to suffer the “movement”?

And does it do it all the time or only when there are weather changes more than 10 degrees?

Does it do it on small tables and large tables alike?

And if this is the case, then it does it to dressers too?

And desks?

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Obi, You might have something there.
There’s a possibility that using dowels without screws, that the dowels give a little to forgive the wood movement. That’s why you haven’t had any problems.

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That’s what I was thinking Dick, since the top wasn’t absolutely fixed to the aprons, if it had to give just a hair… and Marc (WW) showed the figure 8 fasteners, I din’t take into cosideration that they might move some.

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You can’t knock it if it works for you.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

Well, so far so good.

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That is what counts then.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

I made a butcherblock type counter top and I glued a breadboard end on it . In the first winter I got a crack about 1/4” wide, about 6” from the breadboard and then worked both directions. So I’ve changed my construction techniques..

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SO, KARSON. EXPLAIN WHAT CHANGES YOU MADE TO REMEDY THE SITUATION

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obi sometimes it takes a couple of years to split and sometimes it will split right away depending on the weather in your area, but a good rule of thumb is on crossgrain construction you should not glue more than 4in. and that’s only on 1 side. now if you like the look of the dowels you could dowel one side down and put faux dowels on the other side and use figure eight or clips on the other side. i am in this for the long run as i know you are too. you just don’t want a top to split on a customers piece a year or so from now. i hope this helps

-- Phil, Chattanooga,TN

And through your discussions I keep getting more and more information on how I “Should” have made the table top for my challenge table.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

Obi:

I’ve done floating breadboards (on a workbench that I made) Mortise and tenons. On this one I drilled for three dowels through the breadboards and through the tenons on the end of the bench. I then elongated the hole in the end tenons. so that the dowel could slid side to side but not allow movement away from the bench top. (The center one was a round dowel in a round hole in the tenon, thereby locking the movement to the center)

I mounted the Workbench top by putting a square tenon in the end of the leg and in so doing I’ve anchored the front to the front of the bench. The rear had a rectangular mortise so that the top could move at the rear. (The front was locked with the square mortise and tenon.) The top weighs 150 lbs so I didn’t have to attach it to the legs just sat it there.

I use “Z” clips in a slot in the apron and let the top move as it wants.

I use veneer on plywood and give the table a solid edge and attach to Style and Rail sides thereby having no movement.

Sorry I didn’t explain further when I made the original post.

So if you wanted the look that you gave your table, using my techniques. Drill and mount your center dowel as you have done, or do it on one of the sides. Then use “Z” clips table top fasteners or cshardware product 15.75z or 15.DTF.00 or a wooden variety. Then the other dowells would be for show. I wouldn’t use the figure 8 on the other side because that could keep the top from moving.

If you noticed Dusty’s attachment of the figure 8 clips he attached them to the seat bottom on a stool type table but they were attached in a way that there would be no binding if the top were to move. Dusty’s project

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Too many words… I got lost.

So which way does the wood move. Obviously it doesn’t move side to side because the glue holds it. Therefore it must get longer? And is it all wood all the time in all climates or is it just some woods most of the time in wet climates or wet wood in dry climates after the wood dries out?

I’ve been bangin’ nails for over 30 years and I know that wet lumber dries out and houses settle, but in a controlled invironment where there is no extreme temperature changes why would it move, especially when you buy dry (less than 5% moisture content) lumber to begin with.

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Wood moves across the width. Unless it’s quartersawn then it expands and contracts across its thickness. If you have access to finewoodworking.com http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/SkillsAndTechniques/SkillsAndTechniquesPDF.aspx?id=2867

Wood changes seasonaly. Even here in Los Angeles. Door panels might shrink in the winter and expand in the summer. That’s why solid wood panels are not glued in. It’s not only the temp. It is also the humidity in the air.

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

There’s a possibility that the climate you live, the humidity doesn’t change much, so you won’t get much movement.

Where I live we have high humidity in the summer, & very low humidity in the winter.

MN is like a desert in the winter. A lot of the furniture gets real loose. So if your table moved to a different climate, things may happen to it.

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John,

I don’t, but thanks for the info.

That’s the kind of thing I was talking about in the PDF file sharing thing. I don’t know, so I have to find what back issue it’s in and order it because my friends at Lumberjocks are too worried about stepping on Taunton Press’ toes.

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Googleing wood movement returns quite a few items. I think we may be lucky here in the central valley. Humidity is pretty low.

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Well this table is doweled in the aprons, and the legs so if it’s going to give, it’s gonna have to fight the glue, and i know that the glue will win… This is going to be interesting.

If I’m not in jail in the next few years, I’ll let you all know how the tables withstands the climate here in the Central Valley.

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Probably it will survive. I bet the dowels have a little play. In my house the original door panels were painted at some point. This locked them in place so they couldn’t float they cracked (many of them) not at the glue joint but just in the middle of the panel. I have heard that the glue will outlast the wood.

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

It’s not about stepping on toes; it’s about abiding by the laws of our country. If you don’t like or agree with the laws, you work on changing them – you don’t simply ignore them.

The subscription to FineWoodworking.com is $15 if you have the magazine subscription and something like $30 or $40 if you don’t.

So if you pay $8 for one back issue (does that even include shipping?), then in two purchases you’ve already gone over the FineWoodworking.com subscription price if you have the magazine subscription and you’ll have gone over it in three more purchases if you don’t.

But you get access to SO MUCH more information than what you’ll get in two or five back issues… People don’t think twice about dropping $30 on a router bit or a saw blade (much more $$ than that, really) or some other jig or tool that will help you with your woodworking. This is no different. The knowledge and plans and design ideas you can get access to with this membership are infinitely better than one router bit.

If you have a “business”, then you probably write off other tools you buy, right? Buy the subscription and call it a business write-off as well.

I hemmed and hawed about buying it for a while, but… after thinking about it like that, it became a no-brainer. To off-set the price, I simply didn’t renew one of my other magazine subscriptions that really didn’t give me much good information to begin with.

-- Ethan, http://greystonegreen.blogspot.com/

O.K. I just updated my web site to include a few more images of the Hickory Coffee Table here

Hope it meets everybody’s approval

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Nice job on the table Obi. What did you do to get the table top so shinny?

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

that is a beautiful table, Obi. Beautiful

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

8 coats of high gloss lacquer

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Wow, that is wonderful. Did you sand/polish between each coat for a smooth finish? A very nice job with that finish. I am still working on improving my finishes.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

Nice table.

-- jeanmarc manosque france