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Dovetail saw (Gent saw conversion)

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Project by Tim Dahn posted 01-08-2013 05:06 PM 3060 views 14 times favorited 20 comments Add to Favorites Watch

A few years ago I bought a crown gents saw on the cheap (I think between $20-25), it worked ok but I never could get comfortable with this style of handle.

I was able to get the brass back, split nuts and bolts from Wensloff & Sons. The cost for these is around $25 so for less than $50 and a day in the shop I now have what I consider a premium dovetail saw.

I choose the Moulson handle pattern as it had room for the medallion bolt which I filled with ram’s horn. The wood is Cherry finished with BLO.

Thanks to pastorglen for posting his dovetail project, you can see it here:
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-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.





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Jim Bertelson

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#1 posted 01-08-2013 05:25 PM

I love it! Great job. Just feeling and looking at tools like that gives me the eeby geebys. I don’t think I would ever take the time to do it, but is sure is a beautiful item.

I am finally back in the shop. Still have some work stuff left incomplete, but it was time to take a break and have some fun. I am completing my very unusual cut-offs cart, which is definitely overengineered and very personal. Should be able to blog on it in about days.

The bottle opener has a prominent position in the kitchen at La Conner, always on display, and frequently used when we are there. Going there later this month. The little shop there is coming along and will get an update blog when I am there.

Thanks for the post…

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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stefang

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#2 posted 01-08-2013 05:37 PM

Fantastic work on this Tim. I’ve never had a dovetail saw so I can only guess at how good they might be.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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Tim Dahn

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#3 posted 01-08-2013 05:48 PM

Jim, Hope you can spend some more quality time in the shop (both of them) and glad to here the bottle opener is still performing well. Looking forward to this cut-off cart blog.

Mike, I have to say saw cuts really well. The saw could be converted with the original steel back but I opted for the brass back. I have noticed the current version of this saw is brass backed now.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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#4 posted 01-08-2013 06:06 PM

Great looking saw! How did you fill the medallion bolt with ram’s horn?

-- Chesapeake Bob, Southern Maryland

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Tim Dahn

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#5 posted 01-08-2013 06:43 PM

Thanks Bob,
I rough cut the rams horn, hot glued it to a 3/4” dowel and turned it on a lathe to fit the medallion then cut off a piece about a 1/8” thick, glued it in and sanded up to 400 grit and buffed it.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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exelectrician

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#6 posted 01-08-2013 08:17 PM

Wow, wow Oh! Wow!

-- Love thy neighbour as thyself

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489tad

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#7 posted 01-08-2013 09:22 PM

What did I pay for my LN??? You did a fantastic job with the handle, the whole project. Well done!

-- Dan, Naperville IL, I.G.N.

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mafe

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#8 posted 01-08-2013 10:08 PM

That is one lovely saw!
And since you made it, you will never get a saw that could bring you more joy.
Way to go!
I love it.
best thoughts,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#9 posted 01-08-2013 11:28 PM

Wow Tim, that is so beautiful. Almost too nice to use, LOL.

-- Joe

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Roger

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#10 posted 01-09-2013 12:42 AM

That’s a much better handle than the flat one. Super nice.

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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Dennisgrosen

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#11 posted 01-09-2013 01:49 AM

thats a tool to be proud of Tim :-)
and doing it isnĀ“t the worst to do since a gentsaw was
developed from dovetailsaws to be sold as a gentlemans saw back then as far as I have been told

how does it goes with your ripsawing now

take care
Dennis

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Ripthorn

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#12 posted 01-09-2013 02:41 AM

I actually right now have my gent’s saw on my bench laying under a printout of the Gramercy tools dovetail saw handle. I just need a nice piece of wood. I was thinking cocobolo, but now I’m thinking cherry. I just don’t know.

-- Brian T. - Exact science is not an exact science

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Tim Dahn

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#13 posted 01-09-2013 02:54 AM

Mads, Thank you, it seems shop made hand tools are the most treasured.

Dennis, I think you are referring to my frame saw. I have not used that as much as I thought I would but getting better at rip sawing. I am currently waiting to get my rip panel saw from the sharpening service, they are going to re-tooth, sharpen and set it.

Ripthorn, not sure how cocobolo is to shape and sand cherry is fairly easy. Something to consider as you will be doing quite a bit of shaping and sanding when making a handle.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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Luke

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#14 posted 01-09-2013 02:54 AM

Very nice! I didn’t want to spend too much on hardware so I did it a little different with the same saw. It already had a brass back which was a plus.

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/66195

-- LAS, http://www.abettersign.com

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Tim Dahn

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#15 posted 01-09-2013 03:03 AM

Luke, you may have a newer version with the brass back, looks great. Seems we had the same difficulty with the gent saw handle.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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