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Project by DHS posted 604 days ago 2683 views 24 times favorited 18 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I had been searching for a vintage tenon saw for months but could not find one I liked. So, I decided to just build one. After all, how hard could it be? It turned out to be both easier and more difficult than I imagined. The spring steel saw plate was a piece of cake. I ordered one from Wenzloff and Sons (http://www.wenzloffandsons.com). It was relatively inexpensive and they even cut the teeth for me (11 ppi). The handle was trickier but I took my time and after one false start I managed to fashion one out of some figured cherry from the cut-off bin. I copied a handle from an old Disston back saw, but gave it a slightly more aggressive hang. I cut the handle to shape using a bandsaw, scroll saw, and drill press. I carefully shaped it using rasps, files, chisels, and lots of sanding. Cutting the slot for the blade was probably the most challenging part. I used a thin-bladed carcass saw that cut a kerf the same width as the tenon-saw blade.

By far, the most difficult operation was folding the brass spine. It was much harder than I had expected. I went through a few pieces of brass before I got it right. In the end, I used 2” wide 0.093” thick formable brass (Alloy 260, McMaster-Carr). I visited a friend of mine in his machine shop to bend it (see collage of photos). I made the initial fold using a sheet metal bending brake. I carefully squashed the spine some more using an arbor press. I then hammered it like crazy against an anvil to flatten it. It took a lot of sanding to remove the mallet marks. And it took a lot of bending and tweaking to get it straight. I tapped it onto the back of the saw plate with a mallet.

After setting and sharpening the teeth, I’ve got one serious tenon saw. If you are interested in making a saw like this, there are a few web resources that I found quite useful.

http://norsewoodsmith.com/content/backsaw-project
http://www.backsaw.net/SawHandles101.pdf
http://www.wenzloffandsons.com/pdf_docs/kit_instructions-back-saw-Full_Kit2.pdf

-- Dave S., Bellingham, WA





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HillbillyShooter

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#1 posted 604 days ago

That is just too cool! Looks like you did a great job. Thanks for sharing.

-- John C. -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth." George Washington

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shampeon

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#2 posted 604 days ago

Wow, looks great!

What did you use for the saw nuts? Also from Wenzloff?

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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jap

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#3 posted 604 days ago

nice, i never knew you could buy just blades

-- Joel

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DHS

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#4 posted 604 days ago

Yes. You can just buy blades. In fact, that inspired me to make this saw. I spotted a restored “vintage” backsaw on ebay with a new blade. The seller stated that the blade came from Wenzloff and Sons. That saw sold for two hundred bucks! I checked the Wenzloff and Son’s web page and discovered you can purchase a blade for around $16.00. I immedately ordered a blade and then had to figure out how to make the rest of the saw.

-- Dave S., Bellingham, WA

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waho6o9

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#5 posted 604 days ago

That’s a great saw Dave, good job.

Thanks for posting all the details as well.

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CodyM

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#6 posted 604 days ago

Wow, that is one nice saw! Great job! What is the depth of that thing under the back? Also was there a long wait for the saw plate?

-- Cody - Salt Lake City, UT

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DHS

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#7 posted 604 days ago

cody – The saw is 16 inches long and has 5-inch depth of cut. I think it took around two weeks for the blade to arrive.

-- Dave S., Bellingham, WA

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Dennisgrosen

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#8 posted 604 days ago

congrat´s with a well done job
may it serve you well :-)

Dennis

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walden

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#9 posted 604 days ago

It looks amazing! Well done. I have been thinking of making myself a set of hollows and rounds for moulding applications, but haven’t gotten up the nerve just yet.

-- "When and if the day comes a lion is on my roof, I am hiring a realtor." ShaneA

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chrisstef

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#10 posted 604 days ago

I love this …. for $16 you get the plate, make a handle (free), and squish the brass spline on. A top notch tenon saw.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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WoodworkGuy

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#11 posted 604 days ago

Outstanding job on a wanted/needed tool that will serve you and your descendants well for years to come.

-- Making sawdust and memories through woodworking.

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bko

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#12 posted 604 days ago

That is very nice! Great work—keep going!

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Grumpymike

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#13 posted 604 days ago

Many of us make projects in our shops, but very few of us make the tools to make our projects.
You stand in a very small group with a very large group of admirers.
Great job on that tenon saw. I envy your pride.

-- Grumpy old guy, and lookin' good Doin' it.

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bfergie

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#14 posted 604 days ago

I’ve been looking at those saws on E-Bay as well. How cool to have such an outstanding one that you made yourself!

-- Fergie in CO

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Ben

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#15 posted 604 days ago

Nice saw. I recently made a dovetail saw in much the same fashion. It ends up being much cheaper money wise and you get to say you made it.

-- Do something nice for somebody

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