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Project by Grumpymike posted 10-16-2012 05:47 PM 875 views 0 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

This was really a fun build, I knew how long the top needed to be and how high she wanted it. But the rest was quite vague and I had to guess at alot, but she wanted to match some of her other furniture. That kind of made it a challange. one piece was QS white oak and another was red oak.
The White oak piece looked like it was ammonia fumed and the red oak piece had some kind of stain … hmmmm.
Well, I got the basic table cut out and decided that the legs looked to clunky so I tapered them, not really an Arts & Crafts thing but it lightened the look alot, so I beveled the top to lighten that line. now the lady wanted rounded corners … OK, on the front.
So now I’m ready to finish; I liked the looks of BLO to bring out the grain, and I had come up with a shop mixed stain that looked real close to her other furniture, so here is the delema, do I oil first or stain first?
I went to the LJ’s forum and was told that “BLO was only good for starting fires in barrels full of stain” but I did get some positive replies, and I made a LJ buddy so it was a win.
I oiled, stained, sealed with amber shellac, and topcoated with WB urathane and of course finishing wax.
The legs are QS red oak to help match the White oak piece and the remainder is flat sawn to match the red oak pieces.
This is all mortise and tennon construction, sanded to 320. I did have one joint that wasn’t a real tight fit, but mostly, only I know where that is.
OH yea … She loved it.
If I had it to do over again, after seeing the result the only thing I would change is the shellac … I would use the clear. The amber snuck in a orange hue that I’d rather be without.
Comments Welcome.

-- Grumpy old guy, and lookin' good Doin' it. ... Surprise Az.





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Stormy

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#1 posted 10-16-2012 11:07 PM

She likes it. Looks good. Custom made by a craftsman. I think it looks very good.

Looks to me like you won. ;-)

-- Stormy: Sometimes the wood just tells you what it wants to be.

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AandCstyle

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#2 posted 10-16-2012 11:55 PM

Mike, it looks like the craftsmanship is first rate. You nailed the arch on the back rail. Nice job!

-- Art

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Gshepherd

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#3 posted 10-17-2012 05:06 PM

Nice blend between the white and red oak…. Excellent build in my book…. Besides if the wife likes it then it is all good…..

-- What we do in life will Echo through Eternity........

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Grumpymike

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#4 posted 10-17-2012 05:48 PM

Thanks for the nice comments.
good to hear from you Art.

-- Grumpy old guy, and lookin' good Doin' it. ... Surprise Az.

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Dusty56

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#5 posted 01-27-2013 05:34 AM

This came out really nice ! Good idea to round those front corners too , especially if it lives in a busy area : )
I’m interested in knowing why you would have to oil a piece before staining it ,or why you would need to do both ?
Thank you : )

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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Grumpymike

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#6 posted 01-27-2013 06:25 PM

Hi Dusty …
When I was building that piece, I was impressed with the way BLO made the grain pop, and this piece had some very interesting grain, kind of a ‘curly oak’ on the top that we wanted to inhance.
On test pieces just the stain didn’t bring out the grain the way I was trying to get it … (I had to stain it to match some of the lady’s other furniture) but the BLO did, so I wondered which to use first the BLO then stain or the other way around; so I posed the question to the LJ comunity.
As you can see the answers were quite varied, so back to the test pieces, I did one with stain and shellac, one with BLO stain and shellac and the third with stain BLO and shellac.
The results were: At a quick glande the same. Under shop lighting the oil then stain glowed better and in outdor light the oil then stain looked deeper and richer.
It was the first time I had used this three step finish, and the final result is very nice. Would I do it again? Only on a custom piece that has to match existing furniture. I am sure that some of the old salts here on LJ’s have a better way, but noone shared it with me.
So, ... (thaking a breath here) ...the final differences are slight but noticable.
that’s the whole chronology, I do hope that it answers your question … Sorry to be so wordy.
The rounded corners were requested by the client … no more “ouch” in the hallway.

-- Grumpy old guy, and lookin' good Doin' it. ... Surprise Az.

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Dusty56

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#7 posted 01-27-2013 06:51 PM

Wordy is good : ) Hope your fingers aren’t sore from typing !
I’m working on a small project right now (figured Maple) and I tried to dye it , but the dye just remained on the surface for the most part. I sanded it off and then went with Danish Oil to try to pop the grain. It did , but not the look I was hoping for. It made the Maple too dark and kind of “cloudy”. I let it dry for about two weeks and now I’m applying a finish over it which seems to be bringing it back to life at this time : )
Thanks for the info and have a great day !

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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Grumpymike

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#8 posted 01-27-2013 07:04 PM

I am just experimenting with analine dies with ‘mixed’ results …(pun intended). I have used water and alcohol, but not happy with the penetration.
I tend to think that you are on the right track with the danish oil.
I would be interested to see the final results … and know the tecnique.

-- Grumpy old guy, and lookin' good Doin' it. ... Surprise Az.

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Dusty56

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#9 posted 01-27-2013 07:08 PM

I hope it photographs well enough to show the details that I see in the piece. It’s really nothing much of a project , but more of an experiment at this point. I’ll let you know how it comes out in a week or two .Thanks for the interest.

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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Grumpymike

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#10 posted 01-27-2013 10:15 PM

Cool, I’ll be lookin’ forward to it … and you’r right, the pictures always are lessor than the real life view.

-- Grumpy old guy, and lookin' good Doin' it. ... Surprise Az.

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Legorreto

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#11 posted 08-24-2014 10:05 PM

HAve been looking forward to build one end hall table myself. This one inspired me, Mike. Thanks for the post

-- When life turns back on you... sit down and drink Tequila

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Grumpymike

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#12 posted 08-25-2014 12:12 AM

If you need any help or ideas … give me a shout.
This was a design as you build project because the client kept changing her mind … But she got what she wanted (and paid for it) and now she wants two other pieces to match.

-- Grumpy old guy, and lookin' good Doin' it. ... Surprise Az.

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