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Project by grosa posted 09-09-2012 04:39 AM 1430 views 0 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch

This window casing was made from poplar. South Tampa Historical society was restoring an old house and they had trouble finding someone to duplicate the old rotted molding. They gave me a piece of the old molding and I sent it to Woodworkers Tool Works ( http://woodworkerstoolworks.com/ ) They make all my knives and custom router bits, ask for Bobby. They will even ship them in 24 hours if you need them quickly. All I did was the window casing The contractor is working on the window jamb. The last picture is the original casing full of bondo from the last repair.

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#1 posted 09-09-2012 07:17 PM

That’s the kind of job most people run a mile from. Looks like it took a lot of head scratching and patience.
Can you tell us how you did it – shaper or router? On the flat or on edge?

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#2 posted 09-09-2012 07:54 PM

I traced the original casing. I made a 3/4” plywood template of that outside radius. The knife I had made to the original molding was 4 1/8” so I drew my inside radius 4 1/8” in from my outside radius with a compass. After cutting it out with a band saw and a jig saw I sanded and smoothed out my cuts. This took 3 hours. I have a William & Hussy molder with an Arch Master set up for doing radius work. I screwed my stock to my template from the bottom to make sure the knife would not hit the screw. I put it in the machine and locked down the Arch Master bearings. Lowered the had of the W&H as it was following the template. The knives would start cutting the wood and I let it make one rotation then lower the cutters one full turn then lower the cutters and so on until I had the desired depth of cut. Then I just turned off the machine, raised the cutters, unlocked the Arch Master bearings and that’s it. Here is a link to help with the visual. http://www.wwthayer.com/acrobat-lit/Williams-And-Hussey-Arc-Master.pdf

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#3 posted 09-09-2012 08:02 PM

Thanks for the run down Grosa I have a W&S shop fox knock off but have not used it for ovals frames yet.

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#4 posted 09-09-2012 08:20 PM

That looks like a very versatile machine. I’ve never seen one before. Thanks for showing us that.

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#5 posted 09-10-2012 10:29 AM

Jim, I have used the shop fox molder. I think it is a better made machine.

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#6 posted 09-10-2012 02:13 PM

Grosa
I’m kind of surprised to hear you think Shop Fox is better than W&H .I didn’t buy the shop fox version of the arch master because I thought it was to expensive and that I thought I could make a shop made version.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#7 posted 09-10-2012 09:19 PM

Jim, I was talking about the machine it self. I didn’t even know there was a shop fox version of the arch master. The shop fox molder has adjustable dovetail posts, a bigger table and the whole machine feels tighter when running. I have thousands of miles on my W&H and it still works great. I have modified mine a little bit, I put in slower gears for a better finish, ground down the front and back cross supports to get a larger knife ( bigger bite) and had my yellow rollers redone to a bigger diameter to go with the bigger knife. I paid $800 for my arch master when they first came out, how much is the shop fox version?

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#8 posted 09-10-2012 09:32 PM

Yes Grosa
Planner molders is what I thought you was talking about ,I always thought W&H was the standard everyone else measured other molders by. Wow that’s a ton of modification you have to be a lot more handy at that than I am. Here’s the shop fox version of the arch master but it’s in the $200 range ,it must be a lot less sophisticated than the W&H
http://www.amazon.com/Shop-Fox-D3393-Elliptical-Moulder/dp/B001UE7JGI/ref=pd_bxgy_hi_img_y

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#9 posted 09-11-2012 03:39 AM

I would have bought that one if I had seen it first. There are only two differences that I can see off hand and that is the head with the two bearings is almost twice as wide, that would make it less likely to move and the Arch Master has a quick release lock on the screw knob. I can’t see it but, the Arch M has a 1/4” thick machined table. I would buy it. one job would pay for it. The oval casing I made sold for $800. The W&H was a standard but the shop fox has a much better post system.

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#10 posted 09-11-2012 03:52 AM

The price is about $150 less than when I got my moulder. I noticed the one review on Amazon was from someone who had adapted it to a W&H. $800 is cool,good point.

Have a good one too

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#11 posted 11-24-2012 02:53 PM

Renners, It is a versatile machine. Think of how much money you spend on molding and compair it to the cost of buying this tool. There was one on crags list with the arch master and five sets of blades for $200. I bought it. I kept the blades. Sold the machine for $900 sold the arch master for $500. An average set of blades with a custom profile about 2 – 2 1/2” long is about $200.

-- Have a great day.

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