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I was looking for a small, challenging project to practice (or develop) my joinery skills – I figure by now I ought be able to put bits of wood together in a half-decent way.
I actually tried this “finger mitre spline” joint (maybe it has a proper name, but I don’t know what it is) a year or so ago on a tray that never saw the light of day – it was just too bad to be worth finishing – so I thought I’d revisit it in another context – that extra fatness at the 45° join seemed to be begging for a cigarette to be laid on it, so here it is. Of course, I used my magic 45° router table jig to do this…
I carefully bookmatched the ash end grain, but that all fudged out when the finish got put on – another thread suggested shellac to preserve the end grain colouring, so I’ll try that when I can find some.
I forgot (again!) that things at 45° need to be longer, which is why the joining blocks don’t extend fully into the holes on the inside. I think that’s 4 times I’ve made that mistake now – you would have thought that someone with a Mathematics degree would know better, or would at least have learnt better – but obviously not!
I’d hoped that, by using the oak in strips with the “quartersawn bit” turned upwards, I’d get some good action on the flecks, and, for once, that worked. I fumed it, then sanded with 600 until the flecks got back to their original colour, but not so much that I didn’t sand through the dark on the non-flecks.
The red is somewhat darker and richer than you see in the pictures.
Ash and fumed oak. About 15cm square x 35mm high. Linseed oil finish.
As always – comments, thoughts, criticisms, suggestions for improvements most most most welcome.
-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence."
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Roger
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#1 posted 299 days ago
This is pretty kool. Some nicely cut box joints with that neat sled
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Paulo in Texas
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#2 posted 299 days ago
That looks too nice to put ashes in it but I do love the design.
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Kookaburra
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#3 posted 299 days ago
Somehow the idea of a beautiful wood and a flaming match or smoldering ash just do not belong in the same picture. But good luck!
I really like the corner design. I am going to have to keep that in my ideas file.
The photo of the pre assembly pieces reminds me of the reason I struggle. I could never look at that stack of pieces and visualize the finished project.
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Ken90712
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#4 posted 299 days ago
Man that is cool and way to think outside the box!!!!! Great work.
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Joe Lyddon
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#5 posted 299 days ago
A very unique way to make a Tray... no BUTTS allowed here... LOL
... BUTT a nice tray for whatever… coins, nuts, paper, etc.
COOL joinery… great idea!
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Steven Davis
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#6 posted 299 days ago
Beautiful design, but shouldn’t you want the splines grain to run horizontally?
It is a slick joint, but the vertical grain looks weak, though in this application it can’t really matter and the double spline should help.
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DocSavage45
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#7 posted 299 days ago
Like the way you think Mr. Math/woodguy! LOL!
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Joe Lyddon
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#8 posted 299 days ago
Yes, I think the grain of the corner pieces should be going Horiz. instead of Vert.
(but, in this small piece, it probably would not make much difference.)
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KnickKnack
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#9 posted 299 days ago
Beautiful design, but shouldn’t you want the splines grain to run horizontally?
Indeed so – it should.

But I looked at that, and it just didn’t seem right, and I liked the bookmatched end grain bit on the top. Before the finish fudged it up it looked like this…
And someone somewhere else said something like – “Don’t forget, it’s a box, not a football”, so I figured it would be strong enough.
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Joe Lyddon
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#10 posted 299 days ago
Sneaky COOL! LOL
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CLWidener
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#11 posted 298 days ago
Nice looking joint. Good job.
vipond33
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#12 posted 298 days ago
Don’t know if I mind the interior gaps at the corners. If it were flush it might look too much like the work of a Mathematics major, preening. Extending the corner coves vertically might be interesting and if combined with a slight vertical taper on the sides so that they diminish might be quite elegant too. Add a hair of a downward slope on the top surfaces and you’d get more than a passing grade in geometry from me.
The grain orientation on the corner is spot on IMHO and gotta love the red, especially just peeking out underneath.
gene
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gfadvm
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#13 posted 298 days ago
VERY cool joinery that I have never seen before.
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rance
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#14 posted 298 days ago
Nice ‘Tray’ made using ‘Ash’, thus the name Ash-Tray. You all are really slacking on this. :P At least Joe tried though.
That’s one clever joint there KnickKnack. I agree on the grain direction as to strength. it is simply not needed. I may have opted to align the grain horizontally and dealt with end-grain on the corners. Not better, just different. The bookmatching for the corner splines is another step in the attention to detail that puts this tray above some others. A very neat effect with sanding just enough to bring out the ray flecks.
Edit: Sanding endgrain to 200 grit past the face grain can also help sometimes in preventing the darker colors. YMMV.
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majuvla
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#15 posted 298 days ago
Thanks for posting ’’how to’’ photos.Very nice
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