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Project by dust4tears posted 07-11-2012 12:49 AM 841 views 1 time favorited 16 comments Add to Favorites Watch

A friend came into town and asked I make a sign for here before she leaves to Florida. She didnt understand the time/effort that it takes and left me one day….about 18hrs of work to do the sign. I am new to woodworking and sign making so, there may be easier, less time consuming ways to do things…..but I am learning.

Nonetheless, this sign was designed at 9pm, and the next morning (yesterday), I started….and got ‘done’ 2 coats of poly’ and everything by 1130 last night.

It is 6 1/2’ long, 10” high….and the wood was 3” think….Redwood

I STRONGLY encourage any feedback…..I cannot learn if folks just try to ‘fluff’ me.

-- Ride hard or go home~





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Jim Jakosh

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#1 posted 07-11-2012 12:18 PM

I’d say you did a fine job on that sign. I think you friend will love it!!What wood is that? Is the purple in that wood?
...................Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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dust4tears

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#2 posted 07-11-2012 04:45 PM

It was just a (huge) plank of Redwood. I have read that most folks ‘stay’ away from knots in the wood
because of the ‘damage’ it can do to your design. I tried to use it for character. So, I ‘cut’ it and sanded it.
Then I put a little bit of Danish Oil on it and then 2 coats of Polyurethane…..That was the end result. I thought it was cool looking~

-- Ride hard or go home~

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#3 posted 07-11-2012 04:57 PM

Great sign

With those time scales

It would be a bargain at twice the price :)

jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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dust4tears

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#4 posted 07-11-2012 07:21 PM

Thanks Jamie.

I am new to all things woodworking. What are ‘time scales’? I tried googling and I get a bunch of math jumbo jumbo.

I looked at your Profile and it says you’ve been woodworking for 40yrs. Can I ask your opinions (OR anyone else that has an opinion);

I bought this Redwood 10”x 12’ for $40. I made the sign 10”x 78” (about~ish).
My friend ‘paid’ me $100.00. (I would have given it to her for free, but she wanted to pay me).

What do you think something like this should ‘go for’ retail? In your opinions, what would you sell it for?
(I know it is only opinions and I know price probably varies depending on region….I am just trying to get a ‘ballpark’)

Thanks!

-- Ride hard or go home~

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Jamie Speirs

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#5 posted 07-13-2012 02:41 AM

Sorry about that.

I meant that with the limited time you were given

normally rush jobs cost more

If your making the sign for a hobby that was a

fair price she gave you

If you were doing it for a living you would want about

$350 for that

I looking UK prices

Jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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dust4tears

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#6 posted 07-13-2012 05:41 AM

Ohh~~~ I thought you were talking about the ’ grain something, something…direction of the grain…something, something’....meaning that it was something to do w/ the quality of the wood, “time scales’~~~
But, I understand now~

I know you were not trying to, but know I feel kind of stuuuupid. Lesson learned.

Thanks for the idea of cost!

(For real, I know you werent trying to insult me, and I know you were ‘clarifying ’~~, I do not ‘take offense’ of me with my, “Oh duh” moment!...and do not want you to think I did~)

-- Ride hard or go home~

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Jamie Speirs

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#7 posted 07-13-2012 07:12 PM

Good to meet you

I’m enjoying your journey

in wood.

Jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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#8 posted 07-14-2012 02:13 PM

Beautiful sign. I am new to woodworking as well andvim interested in a good “standard” way of calculating price if I was ever to sell anything I make.
I don’t know anything about how to figure a price for something like this. But just looking at the wood as an expense alone and 18 hours of work… You made about $3.33 an hour. That’s not considering the cost of your Danish Oil, Polyurethane or any other materials you used.

As a newbie I’d like to know how you did the layout? I’ve seen people freehand (doesn’t look like you did that), use a printed out template, stencils and of course a sign kit. Also what bits did you use? I have a limited bit collection right now and im wondering which ones i should look into.
I want to make some Christmas presents and I thought a sign would be good. And… If I could make a few and sell them (gotta support my new habit, lol), then that would be cool too.

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dust4tears

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#9 posted 07-14-2012 05:25 PM

Hi Angie~

As I said, she is a close family friend and she paid for the wood and the stain (I was with her) I would have NEVER accepted 100.00 for that from anyone else…..and I am disabled Vet, and the ‘pain’ I went though to get it done in that time constraint was well worth at least 100 duckies~~~not to mention the creating and carving it.

Most of what I have learned about wood sign~age is from watching Youtube videos.
Here is a link to a youtube channel for Dave and Eric Rhoten…..this this their PRICING video. It is a good standard for signs. (Not other wood projects that are a lot more involved than sign making.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0L0z9BZ0dw&feature=g-user-u

They have AWESOME videos. I watch them ALL the time. I watch and REWATCH the videos until I feel like I know what I am ‘talking about’.
I follow them on Youtube, Facebook, and their webpage; http://www.gr8info4u2.com/

They have a sign making ‘101’ type video for sale for 20.00. I havent seen it, but for someone completely new to tools, wood, carving, ect….it would be a decent investment.
Then they have a $60.00 video about the business end of ‘stuff’. I will PROBABLY get that when I get more signage done start selling some~~
BUT, you can subscribe to their Youtube channel and get a WORLD OF KNOWLEDGE from them.
Furthermore, I just ordered their ‘profile bit’ from their website. I will let you know how that works for me….and the detail it can do.

Okay, now for the questions about the sign.

I ‘drew out’ the letters on paper and then transferred them to the wood via carbon paper. I tried to use Microsoft office….but couldnt get it to print that big. When it comes to “Letters, Lettering”.....I ALSO practice Calligraphy. I am VERY well studied in Lettering. I also draw and do pyrography. So, I can do ‘simple’ things without templates, guides….it is almost ‘second nature’ for me…..because of my other hobbies.
Now, I know when I get more involved, and I do multi~line signs, I will want to use a ‘print out’ and transfer it w/ carbon paper. I too am new, so I am learning too. Here is a link to another topic I am trying to learn about. You might find use in it too~

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/39707

To do the ‘outset’ letters I used a ‘Freud’ 1/8 ‘Double Flute’ (the lines the go north and south on the bit) bit.
To do the ‘carving’ for the rest of the sign, I used a ‘Skill’, 1/4 (I think…1/4…I cant remember) round nose bit.

I know Freud has a 1/16th bit….and when I can find one, I am going to buy it…..or when I get come extra cash flow….I will order it from the internet.

Angie, please do understand, I am ‘new’ at this too…but, since I am disabled sit at home all day….I have nothing better to do than to ‘research’ all of this stuff.
There may be easier, better ways to do things…...I am just shooting at the hip.

I would dig seeing some of your signs…..and I can and will if you want, keep you posted with my progression in sign making~

Does that answer your questions?

P.s.~~~ I edited this several times, because I cannot figure out the ‘link’ thing…it ends up ‘linking’ have the page…..so just ‘copy and paste’ the websites into a new browser…..I do not know what I am doing wrong~

-- Ride hard or go home~

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#10 posted 07-14-2012 05:27 PM

Hi Angie~

-- Ride hard or go home~

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dust4tears

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#11 posted 07-14-2012 05:39 PM

Well hell…...can we not ‘delete’ our own posts?

Angie, look at the first one….the second one is the one I am trying to get rid of….it is kind of a pain in the a$$...and it shouldnt be~

-- Ride hard or go home~

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dust4tears

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#12 posted 07-14-2012 05:43 PM

Well, after a quick search….we cannot ‘delete’ our own posts….

So, DISREGARD the SECOND ‘Posting’

-- Ride hard or go home~

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dust4tears

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#13 posted 07-14-2012 05:45 PM

So, I figured out an ‘Answer’ to it~~~~~

I deleted it ‘all’ except the ‘first couple’ of words.~~~~nonetheless~~~~ ignore the ‘half comments’

-- Ride hard or go home~

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don38

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#14 posted 07-18-2012 03:10 AM

i just bought an adress sign red cedar 10×36 inches and it cost 220 .

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dust4tears

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#15 posted 07-18-2012 04:14 PM

Was it painted…or gold leafed or something? That seems like a lot….

-- Ride hard or go home~

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