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So A while ago, I decided it was time to learn how to weld. It has been driving me crazy the last yr. or so not knowing how to do weld. First off ” My hats off to you Professional Welders! Darn, I did not think it would be this hard! My welds are bad, the only way to make them look good is a grinder.

I am getting ready to start an outdoor dining table with the base made of metal and top made out of wood. It will have two pieces of granite recessed into the wood that matches the granite in our outdoor kitchen.

So this was my first welding project ever, man did I learn a lot. I think I like woodworking more…. LOL…. I learned all about how much I have to learn.

The frame is metal 1” x 1” and the shelves and drawer are wood. I spray painted everything black. The machine is a Miller-Matic Mig. It runs on 220 volts & is a great machine. The metal chop saw is a Milwaukee 14inch. I have a 8 gauge 25’ extension cord as well. I made a recessed tray for the Bottle of gas.

Fun project but glad to be done.

Back to the shop, tomorrow for some 100% wood projects.
Thx for looking.

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"





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emart

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#1 posted 1003 days ago

yeah it takes a very long time to learn how to weld. it took me 3 weeks of hating it until it got easier. 2 years later and im still learning. how thick was the metal you were welding?

also i have that exact same chop saw though mine is a lot more beat up (free tools tend to be that way)

also here’s my welding set up:

its a lincoln 140 with the wheels and steering from a garden wagon so it can roll on my lawn and cobble stone patio more easily

-- tools are only as good as the hands that hold them https://www.custommade.com/by/emeraldcrafts/

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lew

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#2 posted 1003 days ago

I learned to “stick weld”. Never got very good at it but it still comes in handy from time to time. Just like wood working, it takes practice.

Lew

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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emart

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#3 posted 1003 days ago

@ lew stick is definitely not my favorite form of welding. you should learn tig if you ever get the chance its like night and day. like going from driving a model T to a lamborghini

-- tools are only as good as the hands that hold them https://www.custommade.com/by/emeraldcrafts/

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gfadvm

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#4 posted 1003 days ago

Ken – You shouldn’t have any trouble making pretty welds with that welder. It is a very nice model. Set up is important (like woodworking). Wire speed,power setting are very important. Migs don’t like unclean/greasy/rusty surfaces. They also don’t weld worth a damn in the wind so turn your fan off.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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plantek

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#5 posted 1003 days ago

Way to go Ken…
Keep on keeping on. It does get easier.
You may want to consider solid core wire (inter shield). The flux is on the inside of the wire which eliminates the need of a shielding gas (inert gas (the I & G in MIG)). You will not have to worry about wind and although your metal should always be as clean as you can get it, intershield can blow through dirt with ease. A roll of .035 wire will handle and home job you can through at it.
Myself I’m a Lincoln man (I have a 175+) but I have used Miller so many times over the years. There great machines.
Have fun with it!

-- If you want it and it's within reason... It's on it's way!

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emart

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#6 posted 1003 days ago

@ plantek i’d actually avoid innershield its harder to weld with which for a beginner makes a difficult task near impossible. welding outside is fine as long as there isnt too much wind

keep working at it ken you will get better i promise you just have to get past the first couple weeks of using it and getting used to using your helmet. it took me 2 weeks to get the coordination down so i can flip my helmet without my hands

-- tools are only as good as the hands that hold them https://www.custommade.com/by/emeraldcrafts/

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zlatanv

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#7 posted 1003 days ago

Nice set up, I bought a Lincoln about 10 years ago and love it, always wanted to take a class but never got around to it. It took some getting used to on figuring the settings, but now I love it. Welds still aren’t that pretty but a little grinding and paint and they get by an untrained eye. Enjoy it! Just to let you know the flash will give you a sun burn, been there….

-- Z, Rockwall, TX

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Joe Lyddon

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#8 posted 1003 days ago

I think it would be nice to know how to weld… Maybe someday… It’s not a high priority…

You’re doing good… just keep the spark going! LOL

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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lilredweldingrod

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#9 posted 1003 days ago

Ken, The only difference in a good welder and a poor welder is a BIG GRINDER. lol

Learn to watch the puddle and the different shapes it takes while you are welding. All welding procedures have a puddle to watch except the submerged arc. Once you learn to read the puddle, it will tell you when you’re too hot, too cold, too fast, too slow. So keep practicing, and if you are ever up in the Lancaster area, drop in an I will try to help you. It really helps to have some one show you how the puddle “talks” to you.

I love my little Miller suit case welder too. I’m thinking about a 220v Thunderbolt model though. The 110v is just to limiting in what you can weld. And I prefer to stick weld.

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Raskal

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#10 posted 1003 days ago

I have the same Miller model. I had a 110v mig and a 220v stick previously. Haven’t had much practice yet with this thing but I love having the ability to work with wood and steel.

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Mike

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#11 posted 1003 days ago

My first welding project was a custom hanger for the Cosco step stool. The Wife loved it so I could buy the welder from a guy at work. Craftsman 80 bucks.

Welded a Pot Rack shelf. With a wood top. Welded a gate out of the corners of a 10 ft tall patio cover that hurricane IKE ate the canvas off of. The first project after buying the welder though was a welding cart all steel all welded. Love scrap love cutting and shaping metal and woodworking.

Did some welding in a machine shop years ago. Weld a lot here and there repairing safes we have to drill open.

Welds look better as you get used to the machine.

-- Measure once cut twice....oh wait....ooops.

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Skylark53

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#12 posted 1003 days ago

Ken, nice rig there. I’d say all you need is time and you’ll master welding too. As we all find out, its usually that first step that is the most difficult. I admire your ambition and tenacity. Thanks for sharing.

-- Rick, Tennessee, John 3:16

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crank49

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#13 posted 1003 days ago

My first time with a welder in my hand I had to install brackets on a building column for mounting conduit and running power to a roof fan. A 40 ft high roof fan. I only had a 8 ft ladder so after the first bracket was welded from the ladder I had to stand on each bracket to do the next. By the time I got to the top I was welding pretty darn good.

Those were the good old days when we were free to do stupid things like that if we wanted to.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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Ken90712

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#14 posted 1002 days ago

Thx for all the support and kind words.

I have the Auto darkening helmet so that eliminated flipping it down each time. I’m starting to read the puddle better but have a ways to go. I’m starting to understand the noise, ( sizzle ) better. I have been using Inner shield wire thus far and plan on buying the bottle later.

I will not give up on getting better, as blondie says my expectations are always high from the start. lol

Thx for the support.

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"

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Rick Dennington

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#15 posted 1002 days ago

Ken,

I would never have made a very good welder, I don’t think…Years ago I took welding shop, and hated every minute of it….I liked woodshop a lot better…..My dad was a certified welder for the government, and could work on any jobs, especially the govt. jobs….He’s the only guy I’ve ever seen that could weld aluminum, and lay the purtiest bead you ever saw….smooth as slik, and about half the size of a # 2 pencil. I hope you grasp the welding quickly….some of us have it, and some don’t…..I’m on the don’t side…...lol.

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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