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Project by Bearpie posted 10-04-2011 05:06 AM 1119 views 1 time favorited 18 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Red Oak and Purple Heart Vase 9” D x 7 3/4” H 362 pieces, Wipe on Poly

This vase turned out to be my most precise segmentation work thus far! This has 16 segments per row and 16 inserts. I had sheets of Purple Heart veneer and just put a full sheet on each layer instead of cutting 16 extra pieces per row. I had run out of Purple Heart stock otherwise I would have made a dark ring on the bottom and \ on the top. Each ring on this one turned out perfect and was a breeze to glue up. I like this as it is and so does my wife! I am learning what not to do and what will not work and what will! I am still on a learning curve and I think I will be for a while!

Walnut and Maple Vase 8” D x 8 1/2” H 138 pieces Wipe on Poly

This one I started a month ago and got carried away with other projects and let this one sit around. I finally just got back to it and finished it just in time for my 3 upcoming shows 3 weeks in a row. I tried to be different with this one and cut the pieces on a double mitre. This made for a very difficult glue up as I could not use my stainless steel hose clamps cause when I tighten the clamp the pieces slid up! I had to glue it by hand, put glue on rub together till it sticks then hold for a few seconds (10 to 15) then the next piece and when it was dry put the pieces together. This turned out to be too much work but had an interesting look. That was probably why I moved on to other projects! I knew this would still be a good looking vase in spite of the one error I made in the fabrication. Can you spot it? If not then it is not a mistake!

As always, comments and critiques are welcomed and appreciated! Thanks for looking.

-- Erwin, Jacksonville, FL





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Michael1

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#1 posted 10-04-2011 05:36 AM

Very Nice looking segmented vases!!! You shouldn’t have said you made an error. That made me study and study until I found it and I didn’t notice the top band missing the stagger until several minutes of studying it. None the less these are absolutely beautiful!! I really liked the oak with the purple heart inlay. I bet that was a tedious glue up. I haven’t tried using veneer between my segments yet. How thick of veneer do you use? Also I bet the double miter was mind boggling during glue up. You mentioned the tedious task of rubbing the pieces and holding by hand until you get a tack on that one. Thats how I do all my segmented turnings. LOL I have heard of using band clamps but haven’t found any large enough. Most of my segented turnings are around 8 to 10” in diameter at the center. Where do you find your band clamps? I have tried tie down strap type clamps like the miter clamps with the corners removed from the strap, however I have found this to be too clumsily and the strap blocks the view of the segments to ensure proper alignment. So I do it the old fashioned way. LOL

-- Michael Mills, North Carolina, http://www.scicaskets.com

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Bearpie

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#2 posted 10-04-2011 06:08 AM

Nope, that is not the error and this ring was intentional.

The veneer I had happened to be 1/16th inch thick. you can use any thickness you desire and generally I prefer them a bit thicker but it was what I had.

I got my stainless steel hose clamp at Ace Hardware and I did see them at Home Depot and you can join several together to make a large one. The largest clamp I found so far is 7” dia. at Ace. Home Depot had 6”. I have seen larger ones when I was working as a welder but can’t remember the source for them. Maybe Grainger or a plumbing supply house?

As for the strap blocking the view, I align the blocks before glue ups to be sure they fit correctly and sand a couple so it does. I also arrange them by looks and color so they will look good.

-- Erwin, Jacksonville, FL

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Michael1

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#3 posted 10-04-2011 06:27 AM

Thanks for the info. I never thought of joining bands together. As far as your “error” goes, I sure dont see it . I guess it doesn’t have an error and is just a great looking vase. Unless you are talking about the third from the top Maple and walnut ring (not counting the sold walnut top ring) is inverted compared to the other rings, but I believe that was part of the design to give it an accent wasn’t it?

-- Michael Mills, North Carolina, http://www.scicaskets.com

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CalgaryGeoff

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#4 posted 10-04-2011 06:40 AM

Very good build on both bowls. Hope to spend some time turning this winter too.

-- If you believe you can or can not do a thing, you are correct.

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Bearpie

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#5 posted 10-04-2011 07:16 AM

Well if that was an accent, it was unintentional and therefore in my eyes that’s a boo boo! I guess I was in too big a hurry putting it together and laid it down wrong and it got installed the way I picked it up to put glue on. However, If I don’t mention it to the buyer, I do not believe they will ever notice! I do like it, mistake and all!

-- Erwin, Jacksonville, FL

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peteg

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#6 posted 10-04-2011 09:32 AM

Nice job Erwin, you must have the patience of job glueing all thoese pieces befroe you get to even turn the lathe on, did you have a bit of fun with a walnut segment about 3 row sdown in the middle, could be just the photo :: )))

-- Pete G: If you always do what you always did you'll always get what you always got

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Sheila Landry (scrollgirl)

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#7 posted 10-04-2011 10:48 AM

These are really top notch projects, Erwin! You’ve really hit a stride with the segmented turnings. Every one of them is beautiful! I enjoy seeing your work so much! Keep ‘um coming!

Sheila :)

-- Designer/Artist/Teacher. Owner of Sheila Landry Designs (http://www.sheilalandrydesigns.com) Scroll saw, wood working and painting patterns and surfaces. "Knowledge is Power"

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sedcokid

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#8 posted 10-04-2011 01:58 PM

Your segmented HF’s are beautiful!! Your comment on the Walnut vase is called a design opportunity ;)

Thanks for sharing

-- Chuck Emery, Michigan,

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dub560

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#9 posted 10-04-2011 03:53 PM

I have to learn about turning..i think i might like it. very nice my friend

-- Life is enjoyable especially when you borrow from people

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Transition

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#10 posted 10-04-2011 04:49 PM

Nice job on both! I agree with everyone else – it’s not an error but a feature.

-- Andrew, Orange County, CA - www.TransitionTurning.com

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helluvawreck

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#11 posted 10-04-2011 05:27 PM

Erwin, these are beautiful. Congratulations.

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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lilredweldingrod

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#12 posted 10-04-2011 05:44 PM

Berapie, If you are looking for larger s.s. clamps. Try a truck dealer or truck parts supplier. For the air intake system on diesel motors, they use some very large ones.

And I like the second one a lot. Some day I will get a lathe.

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Bearpie

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#13 posted 10-04-2011 06:23 PM

Thanks for the kind comments and they are appreciated!

lilredweldingrod- Thanks for the tip about SS clamps from truck parts, I”ll check em out. While joining clamps together works fine, I kind of prefer them to be singles. (Yeah, picky, picky me) ;-) Yes, do get a lathe one day!

Dub560- Yeah, turning is a lot of fun although it can get EXPENSIVE in a hurry if you don’t watch it!

Peteg- That was just a swirl in the wood and I had no problem turning this one. The nice thing about segmenting is that all the wood are long grain and there is no end grain to give catches and the shavings just peel off the chisel. I put the thin pieces (if possible) running vertical so I have side grain instead of end grain and where I can’t do that, I use end grain but since they are so thin it doesn’t have any effect like a larger piece would. And you say I must have the patience of Job? Ha, I definitely do not! It is just perhaps that time in my life where I have started to mellow out (if that is the proper terminology?) and try new things. I’m at the point where time doesn’t matter and if it takes me 2 weeks, so what, I have nothing pressing me to do anything else and I have a certain amount of money coming in regularly every month so I have “no worries”!

-- Erwin, Jacksonville, FL

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Dennis Zongker

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#14 posted 10-04-2011 08:17 PM

Super Nice Segmented turnings!

-- Dennis Zongker

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branch

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#15 posted 10-04-2011 08:57 PM

hi very nice vases i like them you did a great job red oak and purple heart work well together i love working with oak and the way it looks and feels when it is finished the walnut and maple vase is very nice i like it
great finish on them / i use old car tubes cut thin strips like elastic bands you can get all diferent sizes of tubes even motorbike tubs and orderly bike tubs you can the old tubes from any tyre fitters the will give them to you free

branch

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