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#1 posted 05-02-2011 03:52 AM
did it fall or cut down, how tall are you becuae its huge. Looking forward to those future projects of yours.
-- We must protect the forests for those who can't speak, for the trees and animals. ~THE WOODSMAN~
Eric in Florida.
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#2 posted 05-02-2011 04:15 AM
That sucker is huge !About 90 bizillion board feet !
-- Nothing is particularly hard if you divide it into small jobs ~ Henry Ford
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#3 posted 05-02-2011 05:34 AM
I hope you can find someone who can saw it. I had a big tree like that available to me once but couldn’t find anyone with a sawmill big enough to handle it. Only option would have been to saw it in half with a [really big] chainsaw :( More effort than I was willing to put into it. Good luck!
-- Ian, Tennessee
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#4 posted 05-02-2011 06:22 AM
That looks like enough for a dining room set including the chairs and side hutch. Keep us updated on how it going.
-- Deeds not Words.
Craftsman on the lake
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#5 posted 05-02-2011 06:40 AM
I can be split with lots of wedges and a ton of elbow grease then the halves sawn.
-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.
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#6 posted 05-02-2011 10:48 AM
Nice looking log. Now you have to move it…
We had a series of thunderstorms and this oak was damaged. It’s also too big for my sawmill. I’m going to plunge my chainsaw in the center of the log about 6” deep, put 2 oz of black gunpowder and a cannon fuse in the cut, then drive in a wedge to concentrate the explosive force. Then quartersaw the oak log halves.
-- Hal, Tennessee http://www.first285.com
#7 posted 05-02-2011 01:22 PM
Hal, what part of TN are you in? I want to make sure I’m at least a couple of counties away when you do that… The wedge will certainly concentrate the force. It will also become the path of least resistance (i.e. a wedge sized bullet). I just can’t imagine anything good happening under that plan. However, if you do do it please post your results! ;)
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#8 posted 05-02-2011 02:48 PM
That black oak looks to have a bit of curve to it; was it leaning? Check the center of growth rings; if they are way off center, the tree is full of tension wood and will never dry straight. Oak is hard to dry without twisting anyway and tension wood will make it impossible.
-- Dave www.bluesagehues.com
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#9 posted 05-02-2011 02:57 PM
Hal, I agree with Ian. If you do decide to do it please have your estate post the results.
Dave, nice catch on the curve on the log. I didn’t notice it the first time I looked at the picture.
Hatchetcat, I hope you do not mind if I piggyback on your post:
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#10 posted 05-02-2011 03:06 PM
Drive about four wedges in a straight line on the end then chase the split down the log.Hal, video your technique and post on YouTube.
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#11 posted 05-02-2011 03:17 PM
If you search YouTube, there area some videos posted of people using various explosive methods to split large logs. It is dangerous, but can be done with “relative” safety, if that can be said of anything using explosives. However, I agree, the wedge seems like something that could become a very dangerous projectile/bullet. I believe I woudl rethink that idea. Whatever you do, please make a video. That will be fun to watch. I love to watch explosions, especially through a handy electronic safety filter (TV, Computer, etc.)
-- Hey, woodworking ain't brain surgery. Just do something and keep trying till you get it. Doc
#12 posted 05-02-2011 03:23 PM
The slot will be straight up, so the pieces of wedge should go up too. Search http://www.youtube.com for black powder log splitting and you’ll find lots of video where they use way too much powder. I don’t want to destroy the log, just open it so I can finish splitting it with very little effort. I’m going to try 2 oz and put the charge about half way from the outside to the center of the log. Shouldn’t be much noise and flying stuff when it splits.
Back in the 1960’s I helped my folks clear farmland by taking a post hole digger and making a tunnel under the stumps they wanted to remove. Then, a 5 lb flour sack was filled with fertilizer and diesel then packed at the bottom of the hole under the stump. The detonator was a cherry bomb with a nichrome wire coiled around the fuse. I always used more than one cherry bomb, cause I wasn’t going to dig up the charge if it didn’t go off. Never did have to try the 2’nd charge tho. The hole was back filled and we’d run the wires 100’ or so away and touch them to a battery. The stumps would jump out and lay over beside the hole. If the ground had a lot of clay, we’d add a little fertilizer, and if it was sandy, we’d use a little less.
#13 posted 05-02-2011 03:55 PM
I just watched several videos on this, simply amazing. The trees split so cleanly! I expected to see the trees blown asunder. You learn something new every day. That is what makes LumberJocks such a great place.
#14 posted 05-02-2011 03:55 PM
Hal you sound experienced with explosives, I’ve heard those stories but always used an excavator to stump.
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#15 posted 05-02-2011 06:25 PM
I tried black powder stump destruction when I was 18, works insanely well if the explosive charge is properly placed and sized. For the guys who have no experience with that, be VERY careful, it’s terribly dangerous. Pack very little powder at a time and keep your eggs in different baskets ;)
-- Thomas - Pondering the inclusion of woodworking into physics and chemistry classes...
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