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Project by Jim Jakosh posted 12-07-2010 06:33 AM 3733 views 11 times favorited 23 comments Add to Favorites Watch

This is a crude prototype of a potentially new machine.
I’m making these 6 piece trivets from cedar and the halves are just not perfect enough to glue together. I was thinking of straightening the edge with the jointer, but half of the pieces are end grain and I’m afraid it would blow out the trailing edge if I did that. I needed something gentle to joint it straight and square with the surface that would take off the bare minimum. I got this brainstorm after looking at all the tools in my shop and thought that spindle sander could do the job and that it did- Very Well..
As with a jointer, I lined the outfeed table flush to the sanding drum. I made the infeed table offset by the thickness of a piece of paper- so it sanded off about .004” per pass. Most pieces took one pass some took two and I was done with 8 pieces.

Try this on your spindle sander. You’ll find a whole new use for it . You have to feed it slow to make the surface smooth without ripples.

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!





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dakremer

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#1 posted 12-07-2010 07:04 AM

wow. What a great idea! I would have never thought of that!

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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#2 posted 12-07-2010 07:18 AM

That is a neat idea. I was wondering if I should have gotten the Ridged sander that has a belt sitting sideways instead of the single spindle as you have? This idea will ‘fix’ that problem perfectly! Thanks!

-- “Once more unto the breach, dear friends...” Henry V - Act III, Scene I

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#3 posted 12-07-2010 07:21 AM

Nice job of improvising a solution!

-- Evil can only thrive when good men do nothing.......E. Burke

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mafe

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#4 posted 12-07-2010 12:02 PM

Clever, really clever – thats really a great idea.
Now all I need is a spindle sander…
You are really active these days in the work shop, is it the christmas presents that keep you busy?
Best thoughts my friend,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#5 posted 12-07-2010 12:23 PM

Very smart, I’ll give it a try. I had a V Drum Sander from Stockroom Supply that does this already, but this will help alot with real small peices. Thx, great idea.

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"

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#6 posted 12-07-2010 01:35 PM

  • whacks forehead *

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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#7 posted 12-07-2010 02:44 PM

yup, yup….. thnx grrrrreat idea-er

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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Jim Jakosh

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#8 posted 12-07-2010 03:08 PM

Hi Ron, I went with this because I do not have a horizontal belt sander. That would have done it too. I just thought that the sanding drum is like the cutter on a jointer- only vertical- and went from there.

Hi Mads. Yes, I am in the shop for 3 more weeks and then we leave for Arizona and I have this project for my old boss from their1913 homestead cedar tree. Also, it is below freezing in the barn where I do my turning.
I had my camera in the shop so I thought I’d share some of the ideas I came up with recently and over the years. I love to learn from others’ ideas, too.

Hi Ken—that sounds like my ikdea is not original if the V drum sander does that already. I guess I’ll forget about the patent…...... tee hee

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#9 posted 12-07-2010 03:25 PM

Thanks for the pictures and tutorial on the project. I’m considering something like this on my drill press. Have you considered a dust collection system behind the sanding drum?

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RonPeters

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#10 posted 12-07-2010 05:08 PM

The only problem with doing this on my drill press is that the drill press is designed for vertical pressure. When I’ve used sanding drums on the press, horizontal pressure, invariably the chuck comes off the spindle and “LOOK OUT!” it’s a flying chuck!

I made the Phil Thien dust collector and so far, I’m amazed. This thing really works!

-- “Once more unto the breach, dear friends...” Henry V - Act III, Scene I

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#11 posted 12-07-2010 05:14 PM

Jim that´s a clever and neat idea. Appreciate the input
Take care

-- Back home. Fernando

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#12 posted 12-07-2010 05:16 PM

I posted the very same thing a year ago the only difference was mine was in one piece.

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childress

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#13 posted 12-07-2010 06:38 PM

Well… It looks like I’m the only one who doesn’t think this is a good idea…

A sanded surface is not an optimum glue joint surface because when you sand, it frays the wood fibers as opposed to cutting them cleanly, like with a jointer. But, since you had some end grain, a good blade on the table saw would have been my choice….

I would be very interested in seeing this trivet in a year or two to see how it has held up.

At the same time, this is a good concept and design, just not for a glue joint in my opinion. Looks like it would work great for edge sanding.

-- Childress Woodworks

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#14 posted 12-07-2010 08:34 PM

I think it’s still a useful idea Jim. I too have a surface sander which I built I put an old bandsaw fence on it(see posting) so it is doing a similar job, I agree with Ken though handy for small pieces. I personally don’t have a problem with gluing sanded surfaces in fact I prefer it.The frayed fibres allow glue to penetrate the two surfaces like roots & I never have a failure problem. Super glassy planed surfaces resist ingress of glue. As long as you’re not finishing with 60 grit it shouldn’t be a problem. Can I just say do make sure the pieces are really well conditioned to indoor humidity & temp BEFORE you final fit & glue them. I built a couple of segmented candle lamps with veneer laminates between segments & the second of the pair I built without conditioning the pieces as it dried out & shrunk it cracked one of the segments
Best
Trevor

-- God created wood that we may create. Trevor East Yorkshire UK

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#15 posted 12-07-2010 08:41 PM

I have used this method also to get away from chipping tricky grain with the jointer. I also used a one piece design. I cut a hole for the drum centered and tangent to the edge, then ran it through the jointer, stopping halfway through the last pass (at the hole) to make the infeed/outfeed “fences”.

-- A thing of beauty is a joy forever...

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