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Project by fernandoindia posted 12-06-2010 05:52 AM 2974 views 6 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Hi over there,

I´ve been out for a time taking care of some family issues which are hopefully under control.

During the last month my mind kept thinking about the EZ miter technique depicted by Martyn somewhere in LJ.

Quite frankly, when I saw that blog I thought, this guy is out of his mind. Trying to build a wooden box as if it were a paper box !! Why? Is that necessary?

At some point I realized that depending upon the drawing geometry of the box , EZ miter is the easiest approach. That doesn´t mean is easy. At least for me.

So thank you Martyn for opening our minds in that regard. (Well, in some others too)

BTW, let me also tell you that this was the second attempt to make, not the box, but the stripped board.

Getting exact measure on such thin strips can only be handed with the sander. Once again after reading a lot of posts about the Drum sander, I made one of those before attempting the second board for this box.

The wood is bolivian cedar and guatambu. Finished with clear Poly aerosol.

I will not describe the building process since Martyn BritBoxmaker has already made a wonderful job in this respect. Just inform that the miters were cut at the router table with a 45° bit. (edited 3 months later: meant a 90° bit) I tried using the TS, but won´t tell you the mess I made.

Made a couple of mistakes during the cuttings.

In the third photo watch the brown line, and the groove.

Both shoud be in the opposite side. What I´ve got was a very tall lid, and almost no box. (It could be worse)

That is why I made after a second box.

Stupid of me, forgot to make the routing groove for the lips of the lid. ( I managed to put the lips in the lid as Martyn did in his tiny box Atom

I will also address some doubts, that my lazy mind at this stage doesn´t allow me to understand:

If you look at the boxes, all stripes concurr. Yes, only in the sides shown. But the mistery of Geometric Godness, show the hide side of the wrapped box where two sides mismatch the stripes. I don´t know why, nor how to avoid that. To lazy to continue thinking on that. So if someone wants to take the challenge, let us know. I can still sleep.

Finally, one of the unbelievable moments of this process, was to fold the box as if it was paper made. So I made a video of that.

Hope you enjoy as I did.

Take care

-- Back home. Fernando





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DragonLady

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#1 posted 12-06-2010 05:55 AM

for the one that’s all lid…just flip it over?

-- A woman's work is never done-but power tools help!

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#2 posted 12-06-2010 07:55 AM

Looks like you got it down pat!! Nice job.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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mafe

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#3 posted 12-06-2010 12:42 PM

Nice boxes, and nice work.
Thank you for sharing also the mistakes, this makes it all so much easier to understand.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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Wolffarmer

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#4 posted 12-06-2010 04:15 PM

Sleep my brother sleep.

You did good.

Randy

-- That was not wormy wood when I started working on it.

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#5 posted 12-06-2010 06:15 PM

Looks to me you learned well from the tutorial. Very fun little boxes. Well done!

-- Dan ~ Texarkana, Tx.

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#6 posted 12-06-2010 06:37 PM

Thank you very much, Fernando. I’m glad you decided to give it a go. These are beautiful, well done indeed. Even I don’t always get it right first time (see the lips in Atom, as you mentioned) so don’t feel bad about any mistakes. Mistakes are where we can learn. I like the colours you’ve used, very reminiscent of some of the mint humbugs we get in the UK, very seasonal in my family.

Regarding the use of mitre bits. The only reason I went back to the table saw was that I didn’t have a mitre bit with a sharp enough tip. Its a lot more exacting and labourious doing it this way but hey, it works for me.

A few years back I designed a jig that allowed me to tilt my router, in the table, up to 45°. I’ll have to dig it out again as it occurs to me that equiped with this and an ordinary straight bit I’d be able to cut these mitres on the router table. I’ve changed routers since then so a little re-work may be necessary. Hmm you’ve got me thinking…....

ps How much do I owe you for the advertising?!

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging. http://www.theartofboxes.com

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fernandoindia

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#7 posted 12-06-2010 06:42 PM

Thank you all for the encouragement.
@ Dragonlady, flipping it over won´t help at all. The bottom looks horrible. remember is the bottom.
Probably the box can carry a ring o something like that.
Take care

-- Back home. Fernando

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reggiek

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#8 posted 12-06-2010 07:10 PM

Great job all around. I love the colors. I have a friend that makes boxes similar to these but he uses vaneers and inlays (much more intense and time consuming).

As for the box that is all lid….use it for a display box…like the ones watches come in…..put a small piece inside to set your ring (or what have you) on. You could also make small ports to see inside? Anyway, I digress….

Nice to see the mistakes also….I remember trying to cut small pieces on my TS without a sled….what a fiasco. I then went to the Bandsaw….no joy there without alot of set up/tweaking etc (and would have to make a 0 tolerence plate (the table did not stay at the right tilt though without alot of adjusting). So I finally went to the jig saw (worked well after I tilted the table and used some welding magnets to act as a fence. It had some other interesting twist (I did get it to work – but a good sled, or sliding mitre would have made it a snap). I did not have a router table at the time and did not fancy doing them free hand.

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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fernandoindia

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#9 posted 12-06-2010 07:43 PM

@ Martyn, I followed so close your tutorials, that made the same mistakes!, LOL.
Thank you again, take care

-- Back home. Fernando

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fernandoindia

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#10 posted 12-06-2010 07:58 PM

@ Reggiek, I thought about a ring inside. I´m afraid that will make a way too expensive to solve the mistake in the box. LOL. I´ll put a one dollar coin in it.

I think I´ll make a try on your twist of a small sliding mitre sled. I think we all enjoy making tools and jigs rather than projects.

Thank you and Regards

-- Back home. Fernando

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#11 posted 01-14-2011 03:13 AM

Wow, sharp looking boxes very interesting technique!

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bigike

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#12 posted 01-14-2011 03:40 AM

very nice boxes.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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