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Project by PflugervilleSteve posted 1264 days ago 2607 views 2 times favorited 17 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Picked up the number 8 Bailey off of ebay. It’s in excellent condition and after sharpening the blade up joints long slabs like a dream. I’ve been practising using to flatten some big panels.

The Lie Nielsen number 4 when Woodcraft was clearancing them out, so I got it brand new at a slight discount. I purchased it after attending one of the Lie-Nielsen travelling demo show things. If you have a chance, go see one. It gave me a new appreciation for sharp and I make way less sawdust now (but LOTS more shavings!) which is good for the allergies and those wood dust boogers.

I’m really not crazy about the Stanley 90. I picked it up on a whim at Woodcraft (I’m a clearance shopper – I admit it). It’s useful, but I have often wished it had a longer “nose?” on the front. I’ve tried the Lie Nielsen and Veritas Shoulder planes, and am in lust.

I’ve got two 607 Bedrocks I’m refurbing, a Stanley 3 that is in minty condition, a Stanley 5 that I’ve completely refurbed. I’ll throw up some better (finished refurb) pictures soon. I’ve even made a couple replacement totes. Getting the angle for the hole for the hardware was a booger until I found some instructions and some templates on Lee Valley’s website. The size wasn’t right, but their approach helped make the process much easier. Always a new technique, right?

I also have an Ohio Tools 1/2” dado plane that I picked up as part of a group of planes I purchased. Once I sharpened it up and cleaned it up, it cuts like a champion.

But as I said – a cautionary tale. Buy one or two and soon you’re like, “Wow – that guy is selling that plane for 10 bucks? (The number 5). Sweet! I’ll strip it down refinish it then… ummmm…. sell it or trade it, yeah that’s it. I don’t need that many planes….”





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TopamaxSurvivor

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#1 posted 1264 days ago

Looks like are in the plane business for sure:-)) Do you think the #8 will be better than the 607 Bedrocks for flattening?

I looked for a while on Lee Valley’s site, I saw quite a few articles, but nothing about making totes. Do you have a link?

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Mike

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#2 posted 1264 days ago

www.leevalley.com/us/html/16j4010k.pdf

Thats the PDF

-- Measure once cut twice....oh wait....ooops.

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#3 posted 1264 days ago

Thanks Mike :-)) I didn’t see any index pdf files on there site. Just a bunch of short articles about verious tools. Is it one of those when the print version is called for?

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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gary351

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#4 posted 1264 days ago

Nice planes Steve, I inherited a Bailey and some other planes but never use them, really don’t know how. All i have is plywood, what type of wood would you suggest to learn on. Thanks

-- A poor man has poor way's

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#5 posted 1264 days ago

Topamax here is the link

http://www.leevalley.com/US/shopping/TechInfo.aspx?p=63263

-- If you can't do it right the first time, then when are you going to find the time to do it right the second time...

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#6 posted 1264 days ago

Nice looking planes. Good luck refurnbishing the rest of them. “Somehow” I know the feeling of buying just one, then next thing you know you have….......more

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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#7 posted 1264 days ago

Gary, you need to start with a sharp blade. Get a honing guide, sandpaper up to 2000 grit and a flat surface to glue the sandpaper onto. Flatten the back, then hone hone the bevel using the honing guide, working your ways up through the grits. Practice on softwood like 2×4 to get a feel of planing and setting the blade to the correct cutting depth. Move up to cheap hardwood like poplar. You are going for a soft fluffy shaving that you can see through, and a polished surface on the wood you just planed with no tearout. Make sure to plane with the grain of the wood, not against it. If the plane starts to chatter and cause tearout, resharpen the blade. Once you learn to use a handplane, you will likely use it on every project.

-- Dominic P.- Duxbury MA

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#8 posted 1264 days ago

Nice planes.
One day you will use the Stanley 90 and wonder how you managed without it.

Jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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#9 posted 1264 days ago

Planes are like Lay’s Potato Chips, “You can’t just have one.” I started my collection with a couple of planes that had belonged to my great-uncle. Every time my SWMBO and I go to an antique store or flea market, I go digging through anything that looks like it might have some tools in it looking for old interesting planes. Be very carefull, it is highly addictive.

-- Hey, woodworking ain't brain surgery. Just do something and keep trying till you get it. Doc

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#10 posted 1264 days ago

I’m afraid I have caught the hand blade bug also. It started with a “like new” LN number 4 that I got for a great price. Now I have a small collection of older planes in pretty good condition. Just got a 100 year old Bedrock 604 at a good price simply because I want to compare it to the LN 4. If I like it as much as I expect to, I’ll resell the LN.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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Bob A in NJ

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#11 posted 1264 days ago

Can’t wait to see the custom made plane cabinet for your collection. That No 8 sure gives a great workout.

-- Bob A in NJ

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twokidsnosleep

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#12 posted 1264 days ago

Yep, I’ve got the plane lust. Have to hold myself back as I have nowhere to put them.

-- Scott "Some days you are the big dog, some days you are the fire hydrant"

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#13 posted 1263 days ago

Thanks, Looks like a lot of good info. Not sure why I couldn’t find that. their search kept going to their tools :-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#14 posted 1263 days ago

look mighty good from here :-)
congrat´s with your new toy´s
enjoy
Dennis

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#15 posted 1262 days ago

I think I may have bid against you on E-bay, I’ve been trying to pick up a used #8 for several weeks. They all seem to be going up in price.

-- Common sense is so rare anymore when you do see it, it looks like pure genius.

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