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I was sick of constantly reaching in my pocket for a pencil and not finding one, so I made several of these quick pencil holders for my workstations out of some scrap plywood. Not the prettiest things but they were easy to make, I’ll make nicer ones if these workout good for me (so far they are great)

-- Out_in_the_Shop





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#1 posted 07-27-2018 03:34 PM

Those look good, in theory, but I wonder if, in practice, the pencils will consistently be where you want them, when you want them.

I have an alternate theory in regards to pencils (also applies to measuring tapes).

SCARCITY THEORY

When I had only one measuring tape, or one pencil, I always had it with me and I could always find it. It was scarce, so I kept good tabs on it.
Then comes the back to school sales and a ten pack of pencils is less than a buck. So I buy three. I put pencils EVERYWHERE in my shop.

Surely there will be one where I need it, when I need it, right? WRONG!

Now, it seems I am searching high and low to find one of those danged pencils.
They are no longer scarce, so I’m not keeping good track of them.

I was also doomed when the local home store put the Stanley Fat Max two-pack of measuring tapes on sale last Christmas for less than the cost of one individual tape. Now, I have three of those #$@%^ fugitive outlaws.

Oh how I miss the days of not having to search for my measuring tapes.

The pencil holders look good though. Did I mention that?
Please keep us updated with how that works out for you.
And, welcome to Lumberjocks!

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#2 posted 07-27-2018 04:06 PM



Those look good, in theory, but I wonder if, in practice, the pencils will consistently be where you want them, when you want them.

So far they are working out well, I have had to kind of “train” myself to put the pencils back, but it’s been a few days and they are all still full lol. This was what I would call phase 1, made them quick out of scrap just to see if the idea was good for my workflow, if I found myself not putting them back I was going to put a tether on them so I wouldn’t be able to remove them from the work area but for now the way I have them set up works great.

I have an alternate theory in regards to pencils (also applies to measuring tapes).

SCARCITY THEORY

When I had only one measuring tape, or one pencil, I always had it with me and I could always find it. It was scarce, so I kept good tabs on it.
Then comes the back to school sales and a ten pack of pencils is less than a buck. So I buy three. I put pencils EVERYWHERE in my shop.

Surely there will be one where I need it, when I need it, right? WRONG!

Now, it seems I am searching high and low to find one of those danged pencils.
They are no longer scarce, so I’m not keeping good track of them.

I was also doomed when the local home store put the Stanley Fat Max two-pack of measuring tapes on sale last Christmas for less than the cost of one individual tape. Now, I have three of those #$@%^ fugitive outlaws.

Oh how I miss the days of not having to search for my measuring tapes.

That’s actually a really good theory, having 1 really good pencil (or tape measure) would absolutely make you keep better tabs on it’s whereabouts, I never lose my nice combination square or calipers so your theory likely holds true for me. I bought a bunch of packs of these 2 years ago during the back to school sales too lol I’m down to the last few packs now with no clue where they all disappeared too. If this doesn’t work out for me I will give your method a shot, I actually recently purchased a nice mechanical pencil (Rotring 600) to put into a shop apron I plan on making soon – so I’ll have a location for the single pencil and it’ll always be at hand, likely making these holders superfluous – but until then these should hopefully work out.


The pencil holders look good though. Did I mention that?
Please keep us updated with how that works out for you.
And, welcome to Lumberjocks!

I really do appreciate the comment! I usually post on Instagram but I really wanted to seek out other places to see projects and share my progress through the craft (still a newbie at it) as well as learn from others. I’ll post up some nicer things in the near future, I’ve been on a big shop upgrade kick lately so most of my projects have been revolving around that and aren’t the prettiest things to look at lol. Thanks and I hope you have a great day (and weekend!)

-- Out_in_the_Shop

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#3 posted 07-27-2018 04:36 PM



SCARCITY THEORY

I like this…

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#4 posted 07-27-2018 04:45 PM


SCARCITY THEORY

I like this…

- guenterrific

LOL me too, very Dr Ian Malcolm

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#5 posted 07-27-2018 04:51 PM

First let me address the post. Nice idea if you feel that will work for you. They seem to be right at the places you may need a pencil, so it has that already going for it. I think for me I would have to do the tether them on thing. Now for my thinking I would leave them alone for a while. Couple of reasons, 1 they sort of stick out a bit, and could get broken off. 2 if they did get broken off doesn’t look like the kind of thing that would take weeks of shop time to remake.

Somewhat different theory for pencil distribution with me, I’ll call it “flood theory” I literally flood the shop with those pesky pencils that obviously can grow legs and walk off. Ya see I am not a pencil snob. I read some writers who DEMAND only to have to suffer something like a Palomino Blackwing pencil or something even more expensive. Sheeese for 22 bux PLUS S&H I can run over to Sams club and buy the vat-o-pencils for something like 12 bux, and have 693 pencils.

At the end of the day when you pull, move, drag or flick either of them across a piece of paper they leave a mark, and if they are #2’s the mark looks pretty much identical.

Thanks for posting.

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#6 posted 07-27-2018 05:06 PM



First let me address the post. Nice idea if you feel that will work for you. They seem to be right at the places you may need a pencil, so it has that already going for it. I think for me I would have to do the tether them on thing. Now for my thinking I would leave them alone for a while. Couple of reasons, 1 they sort of stick out a bit, and could get broken off. 2 if they did get broken off doesn t look like the kind of thing that would take weeks of shop time to remake.

Thanks for the comment! This is phase 1 of this addition to the shop. Like you said – I’ll be leaving them for a few weeks and see if I like the placement (one of them is already going to be moved since it’s in the way) and usability of them before finalizing their placement. I’ll also be making them a bit nicer out of some hardwood scrap I have laying around, I cobbled these together in just a few minutes outta plywood lol, so no time lost if they break.


Somewhat different theory for pencil distribution with me, I’ll call it “flood theory” I literally flood the shop with those pesky pencils that obviously can grow legs and walk off. Ya see I am not a pencil snob. I read some writers who DEMAND only to have to suffer something like a Palomino Blackwing pencil or something even more expensive. Sheeese for 22 bux PLUS S&H I can run over to Sams club and buy the vat-o-pencils for something like 12 bux, and have 693 pencils.

That’s the path I was taking, I pick up boxes of my favorite cheap pencils (the ones in the picture) for less than a buck a pack at the back to school deals, which are coming up quick so I’ll grab a few more packs lol. I did buy a really nice pencil (A Rotring 600, was only $15 on sale though) for my “drafting kit” that I keep with a notepad to sketch out project ideas and stuff, once I make my shop apron I’ll try to see if keeping it at hand is a better fit than keeping some cheaper ones everywhere. Your theory is one many likely use, I prefer having the pencils out and ready to use and not put away in a pocket – so your theory fits that bill perfectly. I really do appreciate the comment, it was my first post here and so far I’m really enjoying the community!

-- Out_in_the_Shop

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#7 posted 07-27-2018 05:42 PM

i think we all have that problem,i try and keep a pencil and tape measure on all my machines but i still am constantly looking for one! maybe the idea of only having one is better than too many,youll hang on to it.great idea though.welcome to lumber jocks.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#8 posted 07-27-2018 06:54 PM



i think we all have that problem,i try and keep a pencil and tape measure on all my machines but i still am constantly looking for one! maybe the idea of only having one is better than too many,youll hang on to it.great idea though.welcome to lumber jocks.

- pottz

Lol it’s definitely a curse we all face haha, I do think you and DS may be onto something with the one tool/pencil and it being kept track of better, once I knock up a shop apron – I may revisit the one pencil option since I’ll have an easy access place to keep it, for now this seems to be working well though. I appreciate the comment and so far I’m really enjoying this place!

-- Out_in_the_Shop

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#9 posted 07-27-2018 07:14 PM

My problem isn’t finding a pencil, it’s finding a SHARP pencil.

I found my kid’s old school supplies storage tub that had several boxes of unused pencils, so I sharpened about 30 of them and put them in a cup (with a pad in the bottom) in the top section of my mechanics tool box. When I want a sharp pencil, I pull one from there, and I never put a dull pencil back in…. the dull ones stay at each work station, like the OP does, for jotting down notes, dims and labeling parts/edges.

I use a draftsman’s lead holder with HH lead and sharpen it in one of the old rotating grinding whirlygigs if I want to get anal about something. But that’s just my inner OCD shining through.

-- I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam

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#10 posted 07-27-2018 09:03 PM

two soup cans
one sharp the other dull
(a bit of sawdust in the bottom of sharp
to keep the points good)

got about 6-8 sets around the shop
take a sharp one and when it dulls put it in the dull can
take another sharp one

once a week go around and gather the dull ones
and sharpen

always have a sharp pencil handy

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#11 posted 07-27-2018 10:13 PM

Hi OITS, Good to see you are taking positive steps to solve one of the most frustrating workshop problems.

My initial solution was to get brightly coloured pencils/markers so that at least when I put them down I’ll be able to spot them… DOH! turns out that dogs aren’t the only creature that are colour blind.

Then came my bright idea, why not keep a swag in a jar so if I cant find one I can go to my jar,

Problem is I keep misplacing those bleeding jars!!!

Why so many pencils you ask? I’ll give you my answer… even if you don’t.
I place an hourly rate on my workshop time. It’s cheaper to buy a new pencil when I misplace it rather than waste 2 hours looking for it… AND… I misplaced it a LOT!

Why is it that when you put the pencil in your shirt pocket… you cannot find THAT shirt!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#12 posted 07-27-2018 10:44 PM

LOL, all hilarious. Scarcity theory isn’t working for me, my pencil hides under all the crap on my bench, maybe wherever I left it. Now, my spare favorite little tape measure went missing (I have one other) and I found it in my husbands glove box? Guess I need to buy him a new one to replace those I have confiscated to my shop :)

Great idea, I just might try this. My only concern is I will forget they are there and bump in to them – must put them at eye level..ha!

-- Kim - imperfection is the pursuit of perfection

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#13 posted 07-27-2018 11:40 PM



..... My only concern is I will forget they are there and bump in to them – must put them at eye level..ha!
- KimAccurso

Hey KA, I think you could be onto something there…. Maybe hanging from a piece of string off the peak of a baseball cap’s… right in front of your eyes… just need some “windscreen wiper type” of mechanism to clear the vision as required.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#14 posted 07-28-2018 12:14 AM

OOPS.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#15 posted 07-28-2018 12:17 AM


..... i try and keep a pencil and tape measure on all my machines but i still am constantly looking for one!
- pottz

I observe the same religion pottzy!... Only trouble is I have too many machines scattered about… none withing arms reach. So I think we may have discovered a new species of “rabbits”,

Unfortunately I have juxtaposed that philosophy to magnifiers,

FAIW, I bought the second pair to find the first pair and the loop went on.

While on the topic of accessing oft used incidentals in the workshop…. Like clamps, you can never have enough box cutters,

In my defense, some of those box cutters have carbon blades used for marking… and now we’re back to the conundrum of lost pencils... I knew I wasn’t deviating from the topic too much!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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