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Project by Div posted 1448 days ago 2586 views 0 times favorited 19 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I go to the Big Smoke around once a month to buy supplies. The nearest town to the farm where I live don’t have what I need. It takes the best part of a day and I always make it a point to stop in at one or two junk shops. You just never know what might lurk in the shadows! The proprietor of one shop knows my taste in “junk” by now and Jonathan had this fellow put aside for me.

This sweet little plane became mine for the equivalent of about $10.00. It is in pretty good condition and basically only required a decent rework on the blade. The adjustment mechanism is rather unusual and I don’t know the manufacturer. The only markings on the plane are “Made in Germany” and “No.03”.

Maybe someone out there knows more about this plane and who its maker was?

The last photo shows a little tin oilcan with brass caps that I also found. Mine for $4.00! Sweet hey!

-- Div @ the bottom end of Africa. "A woodworker's sharpest tool should be his mind."





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mafe

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#1 posted 1448 days ago

Congratulations with the fine purchase.
Sure the fine plane will be good company.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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Tony Strupulis

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#2 posted 1448 days ago

Great find. From here it looks like a higher angle frog. Just the excuse you need for a birdseye maple project!

-- Tony - http://ravensedgetoolworks.com

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Cher

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#3 posted 1448 days ago

Don’t you just love those ‘junk’ shops Div.
Nice find you have there.
They definitely don’t make them like that any more.

Thanks for sharing Div.

-- When you know better you do better.

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swirt

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#4 posted 1448 days ago

My bet is that it is a Kunz. It is similar to this one
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/ProductImages/handplanes/179819.jpg
Kunz Plane
The depth adjuster is a bit different. Yours having depth and lateral control from each side, the newer one having depth and lateral separated.

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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swirt

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#5 posted 1448 days ago

Here’s a listing to an ebay item that is nearly identical to yours … but offers no helpful info
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-old-Wood-Plane-made-Germany-8-9-Carpentry-/320569796993

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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Div

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#6 posted 1448 days ago

Thanks for your efforts swirt! Wow, you guys are on the ball. I think you are right, must be Kunz.

Hi Cher, you are right, I am a sucker for junk shops, as my house and shop will show.

-- Div @ the bottom end of Africa. "A woodworker's sharpest tool should be his mind."

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swirt

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#7 posted 1448 days ago

Hmmm just ran across this Stanley while looking for something else. .. Not sure who is copying who
http://diytools.com/store/detail.asp?Productmodel=STA112033&productid=53423

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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Dennisgrosen

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#8 posted 1448 days ago

I´m with the others
about it cuold be an early Kunz
like the stanley handyman plane but as I remmember there was a copple more makers in germany
but I think we shuold ask Nicholas about it I know he loves handtools speciel some of the old ones

http://lumberjocks.com/Waldschrat

give it a try Div.

good luck in the hunt of infomation on it

Dennis

Edit :I just Pmed Nicholas to take a look

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DYNO360

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#9 posted 1448 days ago

Great find. Those twin adjusting screws must serve a dual purpose, set the depth of cut and adjust the alignment of plane iron. The high angle is desirable sometimes, but most people can’t afford to have a special plane like this. Thanks for sharing. Maybe I can find one!

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Dennisgrosen

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#10 posted 1448 days ago

Dyno its just a tipycel 45 degrees angle plane

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docholladay

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#11 posted 1448 days ago

My guess would also be Kunz, but it is a copy of a Stanley (as is almost everything Kunz makes). The mechanism is almost identical to that of a Stanley #151 or #153 spoke shave. As you can see from one entry, it has also been adapted by Stanley for a plane. It is not known as one of the better Stanley planes, but if it works well, who cares. Remember, the tool is not the goal, the finished product that you make with the tool is the goal.

-- Hey, woodworking ain't brain surgery. Just do something and keep trying till you get it. Doc

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Div

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#12 posted 1447 days ago

Thanks for all the input guys! We have some LJ’s here who knows their tools!

Swirt, how you come up with all the photos and links so quickly, is beyond me!

-- Div @ the bottom end of Africa. "A woodworker's sharpest tool should be his mind."

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swirt

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#13 posted 1447 days ago

Tech day job makes me faster with a computer than I am with a plane ;)

Please let us know when you get her tuned and give it a try. I’d like to know how well it works.

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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Waldschrat

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#14 posted 1446 days ago

Hi guys… Dennis, sorry it took me so long to get back, I have been work some long hours lately.

Um, after looking aroung a bit, and mind you I am no expert, but I agree that it is most likely a Kunz plane. The “Made in Germany” is something that they actually stamp in their planes as a bit of “German quality pride” and use this as a marketing tool to show that their tools are well made. And when you look at advertising from their tools they include it in their advertising.

The company still exists and making quality tools. The company goes back to 1910 in the eastern part of Germany However the number 3 plane is nowadays made with a plastic grip. As already stated above they have not changed the shape of the grips in many years, so this is also what leaves me to believe this is a Kunz. The cutting irons have changed a bit throughout the years, and this plane could be pretty old, so its hard to say. Sometimes if you look at the iron, the “kunz” might be stamped in to the steel. Check out this link: http://www.holzwerken.de/museum/hersteller/kunz.phtml

Ok , well, thats all I know, and thats my 2 cents on the issue!

If if find anything else I will post it here.

till later,

Nicholas

-- Nicholas, Cabinet/Furniture Maker, Blue Hill, Maine

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Dennisgrosen

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#15 posted 1446 days ago

Thank´s Nicholas
I was just at the link you gave us and then further to kunz´s site from there
and I think I have found the model, it looks excacly like model 300
and they call it a Special plane for working with artificial wood plates, alone or glued to boards, or plastic

good luck with it Div.

Dennis

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