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Dust Hose Reel upgrade

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Project by Rayne posted 12-25-2017 11:02 PM 2763 views 13 times favorited 10 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Hello LJ’s. I decided it was time to make my shop vac stationary so I wouldn’t have to drag it around the shop to clean up. I hunted for some design ideas for a hose reel and found only 2 relevant ones on YouTube with one being made by FastCap. Their design is for a 4” hose while mine was designed from the ground up for a 2-1/2” hose reel to hold about 50’ (maybe more; I don’t have enough hose to see the capacity, but you can see I have plenty of room) and to go on top of my shop vac cart. I ordered another 10’ hose to make the total length about 25’, which will be plenty for my shop and will still have plenty of air flow. Let me know what you think or have any questions.

1) Used my circle cutting jig on my bandsaw to cut 16” circles and use a paper template of the 6” lazy susan to help center them over the hole.

2) Used a compass to draw the circle for the lazy susan center and then overlay the outline of the full item.

3) Reel support. Just traced the 16” wheel over where I thought it might look good, then use my larger compass to draw in about 2’ – 3” to keep the whole thing small and then hand drew the curvy lines for aesthetic purposes. You can also see the outline of the lazy susan here and the arc is the hole placement of opposite side of the lazy susan to help screw it into the reel later. You’ll see it in the next step.

4) Reel support cut out with all the appropriate holes. You can see the purpose of the cut out of the arc here. I should have cut the arc a little bigger, but it was sufficient.

5) Clamped the sides to my shop vac cart, cut 2- 2×4’s to size for the bottom support, and to get exact measurements for the center braces.

6) Carpet Taped the two wheels together and predrilled all the holes for the center braces and counter sunk them with a forstner bit as I was using pan-head screws. (made an error in cutting the holes on Both wheels. I only needed a hole in one. The other needs to be left alone for the handle. I came up with a decent solution)

7) Braces installed on one.

8)Braces installed on both.

9) Drilled a pocket hole here to use a short screw to hole the hose in place. This hose came from my older shopvac that already has a spinning collar (large one at that), so that was to my benefit as it gave me clearance to drive a screw in rather than epoxy or glue the collar in place.

10) Had some 1/8” aluminum bars from a failed project that worked perfectly here. Easy to bend to shape, but stiff enough to act as a handle. I had the black handle from my twin screw vise that had no real benefit, so I took it off there and used it here.

11) And the complete look. Used a 2-1/2” hose clamp I had on hand on the other side of the hose to clamp it down at the pivot point of the reel, ran some PCV piping from the Dust Deputy to the reel, and now works just as I had hoped. Thanks for reading this far.





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stefang

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#1 posted 12-25-2017 11:48 PM

Great job on this space saving solution.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#2 posted 12-26-2017 12:19 AM

Rayne, I like your solution… Nice design for the reel… will definitely plagiarise. I have always been apprehensive of mounting the DD on top of my Vac, however, it’s really a mute arguments as you hardly ever need to access the Vac. After heavy use I still can’t remember the last time I had to flip the Vac lid (other than to check it) for clearing.

Not sure of your workshop dimensions, but I have always had trouble dragging lengthy hoses over/around machinery so I have kept my hoses relatively short and mounted “access points” in each corner of my workshop.

You have given me the incentive (and encouragement) to post my alternative, though definitely not a better solution.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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Rayne

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#3 posted 12-26-2017 01:19 AM

Thanks for the compliments. The shop vac is easily removed as it’s connected via PVC pipe and friction fit at the joint. This would come in handy when I need to remove it to vacuum my truck. The Dust Deputy is also on a lip so I can pop that off very easily by disconnecting it from the rubber couplers.
My workshop is 20×20, so a 25’ hose can easily go to any location. The vacuum has built-in hangers so I can hang the 1-1/4” hoses for various needs (sander, shop vac attachments, rockler universal hose connectors for various tools). It’s basically an all-in-one solution with storage, which was my goal. I look forward to what you come up with.

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playingwithmywood

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#4 posted 12-26-2017 04:16 AM

looks good but I would change the lid on the bucket to a Gamma Seal Lid and hook the lid into the stand and make it part of the bucket mount and then you can screw and unscrew the bucket easy and everything else would stay in place

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leaktite-5-gal-Screw-Top-Lid-5GAMMA6/203205720

also you need to watch out for where the top of the cyclone is glued around the sides of the cyclone it is very weak and will flex and break their but since your is hard piped it should be fine I am saying it more as a warning for others that it is good to sandwich the top and bottom of the cyclone with top and bottom piece of plywood and supports screwed vertical between them if anyone is going to use it free standing on top of a bucket that will be jerked around at all

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Rayne

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#5 posted 12-26-2017 04:35 AM



looks good but I would change the lid on the bucket to a Gamma Seal Lid and hook the lid into the stand and make it part of the bucket mount and then you can screw and unscrew the bucket easy and everything else would stay in place

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leaktite-5-gal-Screw-Top-Lid-5GAMMA6/203205720

also you need to watch out for where the top of the cyclone is glued around the sides of the cyclone it is very weak and will flex and break their but since your is hard piped it should be fine I am saying it more as a warning for others that it is good to sandwich the top and bottom of the cyclone with top and bottom piece of plywood and supports screwed vertical between them if anyone is going to use it free standing on top of a bucket that will be jerked around at all

- playingwithmywood

It’s not necessary in my setup. I have a 3/4” plywood under the lid for reinforcement. You’ll see this cart in my project list showing that (this project is strictly for the reel upgrade). As for the bucket, it will collapse if suction is cut off at the hose, so I added one of those concrete hardboard tubes, cut-to-size, to fit in the bucket. Tested it several times and it refuses to collapse (another LJ recommended this and it’s working perfectly). I know of the gamma seal lids as I used it in my DC Mod, but since the cart was based on Jay Bate’s design and before I knew the gamma seal lid existed, it was built in the same manner as his.

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LittleBlackDuck

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#6 posted 12-26-2017 06:13 AM


It s not necessary in my setup. I have a 3/4” plywood under the lid for reinforcement….

- Rayne


Bingo Rayne, I have a DD “heritage” lid and tub and you’d think what Oneida had packaged should cut the mustard, but I had to reinforce the lid to stop it from collapsing.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#7 posted 12-26-2017 12:56 PM

Wow. Great solution for many!

-- AJ

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#8 posted 12-26-2017 03:25 PM

I’m interested in details on the connection between the PVC and the center of the reel (where the fittings need to rotate and still seal). What/how did you get that accomplished?

Nice setup BTW!

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Rayne

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#9 posted 12-26-2017 03:48 PM



I m interested in details on the connection between the PVC and the center of the reel (where the fittings need to rotate and still seal). What/how did you get that accomplished?

Nice setup BTW!

- splintergroup

I assume most shop vac hoses have a built-in collar to swivel on and the one I used had a large collar, so I just used it to my advantage. The collar is screwed into the round wheel to keep it stationary (aka spins with the wheel while the hose stays put), the hose clamp keeps the hose stiff so it can wind up on the reel.

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#10 posted 12-26-2017 05:46 PM

These last two pictures were I wanted to see… This is very cool and saved to favorites. When it is warmer i will be looking at this.

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