ALVIN's BOX - The Sapwood Beauty

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Project by BertFlores58 posted 07-19-2010 11:39 PM 1717 views 0 times favorited 9 comments Add to Favorites Watch

This is the 3rd box already handcarried by Alvin himself to USA. The sides are recycled 2×3 somewhat a brownish color wood but strong and brittle. The bottom is Gimelina and the top is Narra with sapwood.

The good thing with this is the presence of sapwood in the Narra is perfect to match the bottom borderline of Gemilina. It added beauty also on the top grain combination.

There is no way but only dovetail will cater for the uneven sides joints. The left and right side are 1/4, the front is 3/16 and the back is 3/8 to attach the hinges.

Actually this is for the wife of Alvin…. I have prepared the bands to inlay but I canceled it due to time constraint to dry the glue and the sides are so thin that it may weakened.

Hope you like it.

-- Bert

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#1 posted 07-20-2010 12:06 AM

well done , bert ,

and as a gift ,
sure to be treasured .

beautiful woods ,

and workmanship !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#2 posted 07-20-2010 03:20 AM

Nice box sir Bert..I am about to finish my first box too but using only tanguile for the sides, a little of palo china, and molave frame for the top. (getting inspirations from your boxes).

-- My Master is Mankind's Greatest Carpenter.

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#3 posted 07-20-2010 03:55 AM

It’s alright to use pine (palo china). The grain is very good for staining lightly. I started with woodworks with palochina or pine from crates… I usually select the good quality where the grains are tightly closed together and it is quartersawned. Last week, I have 4 crates hauled from my office and right now they are just drying up in the corner. Tanguile on the other hand is one of my favorite specially if it is seasoned or kiln dry.


thanks will be yours
inspired as I am
on magic that you’ve done,
gift boxes everyone wants
will be always be a beauty
from the woodworkers’ hand.

Hows my poem? Hope you enjoy it. Actually the fifth box is from your style but I don’t have a bandsaw to slice the box. Probably, I will try it with Japanese saw… I will feature it as soon as finished. Thanks for your ideas…

-- Bert

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#4 posted 07-20-2010 08:50 AM

Nice work Bert. I like to make do with the materials at hand and use many pallets in my work. Can you please tell how the bottom is attached to the sides?


-- Jim

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#5 posted 07-20-2010 09:01 AM

Just make rabbets (like dados) on both the sides bottom edges and the bottom cover as well. Thereafter just glue them together but do the sides first.

David (Patron) has a very good blog on this. Thanks

-- Bert

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#6 posted 07-20-2010 02:32 PM

Looking good Bert! Another cool box bud….

-- Dan ~ Texarkana, Tx.

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#7 posted 07-21-2010 06:56 AM

Hi Bert,

Patron’s blog doesn’t show the same bottom as yours or my eyes deceive me. Are you saying that your bottom has a rabbet around all four sides? Are you also saying all four sides have rabbets? Then you just glue them together?

If that is all correct, my next question is do you worry about wood movement?


-- Jim

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#8 posted 07-21-2010 08:00 AM

Hi Jim,
Patron’s way is nearly same construction but my process is different. I assemble first the sides since it is a dovetail joint. Then fit in the cover. Glue is already enough. Please note that what you see is 4 mm but the thickness of the cover is 8 mm. I do the rabbet when the sides are already jointed. I clamped flat wood to the side so that the router has a bigger resting portion. Be careful with the corners no to be overshoot.

On wood movement, as long as it is dovetailed you need not worry on the movement. It is very strong joint specially when glued. In case you worry with warping… the wood I use is pretty sure dry and seasoned. I prefer quarter sawn pine in this kind of work or making drawers. Wood selection plus good techniques in wood joinery are the key for a sucessful output.

Hope you will try your dovetail first and rabbets. Enjoy yourself.

-- Bert

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#9 posted 07-21-2010 08:20 AM

Real nice work Bert, love the boxes.

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