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Another "Different" kind of Dust Deputy Cart

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Project by Marv88 posted 08-01-2017 05:01 PM 1995 views 15 times favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Some of you may have seen my previous “different kind of dust deputy cart” from a couple of years ago that I have since passed on to another member here who happened to have the same vacuum.
http://lumberjocks.com/projects/149634
This one required me to lift the top section off to empty the larger capacity barrel and my bad back wasn’t happy with that so I finally got around to building another one with a more compact footprint (14”x14”x50” tall including the motor) and easier to empty bucket.

I’m using the same Fein vacuum motor and switched to a shorter HEPA filter to reduce the height of the “filter box”. The entire cabinet is built from 12mm multi ply birch and I had the casters/all hardware laying around except for the bucket and sander hanger (same as on the other cart bought at Home Depot) so not a lot of out of pocket expense.

The motor assembly is held down with the same type of spring latches used on the original vacuum and I used toggle clamps to hold the bucket up. I decided against the boom arm on this one in favor of routing the hose along the side using holders I made from HDPE plastic. This way I can easily unhook just the amount of hose I need without having to drag around extra.

You may also note there are double the amount of bolts holding the Dust Depty. When I initially installed it with just 6 bolts the already not flat flange and gasket distorted more causing a leak so I drilled another series of holes to flatten it out.

It works great, takes up a minimal amount of space, is very quicke/easy to empty and is much easier to roll out to the driveway to vacuum my truck. Eventually I will get around to adding extension wand and accessory tool holders made from hdpe plastic.

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Marv88

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#1 posted 08-01-2017 05:06 PM

Crap, first time posting from my phone and the pictures attach sideways! Can anybody ftell me how to fix that? Thanks!

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#2 posted 08-01-2017 05:14 PM

Looks really great. Orient the pics in a photo editing program like photoshop or other, then save them that way. Then edit your project post, deleting the originals pics and uploading the new pics.

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#3 posted 08-01-2017 05:50 PM



Looks really great. Orient the pics in a photo editing program like photoshop or other, then save them that way. Then edit your project post, deleting the originals pics and uploading the new pics.

- builtinbkyn


Thanks and thanks Bill! I tried editing but it still rotated the picture however I figured out if I rotated the camera to take a landscape picture it worked fine!

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#4 posted 08-02-2017 01:44 AM

Marv is a true genius. I’m the proud owner of the first one he made !!!

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#5 posted 08-02-2017 02:16 AM



Marv is a true genius. I m the proud owner of the first one he made !!!

- tcarswell

Thanks Taylor and glad that one is working well for you!

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#6 posted 08-02-2017 01:15 PM

Can you post more on the bucket removal? Based on your pictures I can’t seem to tell how it goes in and out. Also your original post lost a bunch of pictures. (Just FYI)

Looks great and makes me want to build one of my own!
Thanks for posting!

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#7 posted 08-02-2017 01:34 PM

I’m super interested in this as well. Would like to know more build details please ?

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#8 posted 08-02-2017 01:55 PM

Very nice set up…. Well done.

As a guy who has had to run loss calculations on air handling systems, none of the dust deputy or Thein separator options have appealed to me, because they usually double the length of flex hose, which is then configured with tight radius bends and this greatly increases the resistance to air flow.

Now that could be offset by having a cleaner HEPA filter, but it still reduces the systems peak performance.

I’ve see a couple of variations of your solution now, and it’s the only one that doesn’t add extra hose.

What still has me hesitating are mobility concerns are that I drag my 20 gal. shop vac around the shop quite frequently (I use it on the router table, chop saw, sanding station and work bench…. not to mention sweeping up the floor).

So I need to figure out a way to keep the weight and height down to a minimum, so the wheels in my head are still turning….. Hmmmmmm…..

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#9 posted 08-02-2017 02:02 PM

This is a very nice project and a great addition to your shop.

helluvawreck aka Charles
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#10 posted 08-02-2017 04:32 PM


Can you post more on the bucket removal? Based on your pictures I can t seem to tell how it goes in and out. Also your original post lost a bunch of pictures. (Just FYI)

Looks great and makes me want to build one of my own!
Thanks for posting!

- dmo0430

You’re welcome and I have broken links to hundreds of pictures due to photobuckets new policy but Im not sure yet if I want to pay what I consider the legal extortion fee they are charging to get them back!

The bucket is really easy to remove and install by flipping the pull type toggle clamps up or down. The u bolt on the clamp is adjustable to get the right tension and I just bolted the catch to the bucket. Also, in the picture above of the underside you’ll notice that I glued on a ring with a chamfered edge to “guide” the bucket as you pull it up but I don’t think it would be necessary if you used a wide enough gasket.

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#11 posted 08-02-2017 04:37 PM



I m super interested in this as well. Would like to know more build details please ?

- eflanders

Just let me know what details you’d like and I’ll post them!

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Marv88

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#12 posted 08-02-2017 04:51 PM



Very nice set up…. Well done.

As a guy who has had to run loss calculations on air handling systems, none of the dust deputy or Thein separator options have appealed to me, because they usually double the length of flex hose, which is then configured with tight radius bends and this greatly increases the resistance to air flow.

Now that could be offset by having a cleaner HEPA filter, but it still reduces the systems peak performance.

I ve see a couple of variations of your solution now, and it s the only one that doesn t add extra hose.

What still has me hesitating are mobility concerns are that I drag my 20 gal. shop vac around the shop quite frequently (I use it on the router table, chop saw, sanding station and work bench…. not to mention sweeping up the floor).

So I need to figure out a way to keep the weight and height down to a minimum, so the wheels in my head are still turning….. Hmmmmmm…..

- Mainiac Matt

Thanks and this is very easy to move around which was one of my goals as I need to move it from bench to bench for sanding during different stages of my projects. Of course the top section height is pre determined by your vacuum motor and filter height as well as the fixed height of the Dust Deputy however you could reduce the bottom section by building a slide out bin compartment shorter than the bucket. BTW, I have sone drawings of other ideas I had to make it shorter and can post them when I get back later.

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Marv88

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#13 posted 08-02-2017 04:53 PM



This is a very nice project and a great addition to your shop.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

- helluvawreck

Thanks Charles!

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#14 posted 08-02-2017 10:13 PM

Works great with other tools as well. I’m going to shorten the cords on all of my tools that I will use this with and twist an extension cord around the hose so I can quickly switch from one to another (will also make for easier tool storage)

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