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This is just.. a box :} I will never join the bottom piece with the body like this again! it is so difficult for meee!!
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#1 posted 04-20-2010 01:45 AM
cool looken box!
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#2 posted 04-20-2010 01:48 AM
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#3 posted 04-20-2010 02:38 AM
I’ve never seen anything quite like this. It is impressive. It is well done and it looks like it is ready to hold something very valuable.
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#4 posted 04-20-2010 03:21 AM
So cool. Now I have a solution to box I made and forgot to put the bottom in before glue up.
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#5 posted 04-20-2010 03:33 AM
That is a great box! I have never seen dovetails used on a bottom before. Very creative.
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#6 posted 04-20-2010 04:09 AM
Very nice! Love the box joint hinge – very unique.
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#7 posted 04-20-2010 04:12 AM
Its neat, no doubt overkill with joints but itd be cool to do, ill try this sometime this summer :P
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#8 posted 04-20-2010 07:18 AM
Massive! It looks like you could use it to perform controlled explosions …..
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#9 posted 04-20-2010 07:49 AM
I never met a box I didn’t like and I’m afraid not to like this one. ;-)
A question if you don’t mind: how did you allow for wood movement in the bottom and the way it’s attached?
#10 posted 04-20-2010 05:49 PM
gossip actually, it is.. not a neat/cool/creative design . . it is something like.. (confessing), you are forced to go to your company’s new year party, and you are also forced to give a gift to one of your friend, and without such pre-allocation budget (because you have been spending money on woodworking tools) , you gather some pieces of wood that is left from practicing dovetail cutting since the previous 6 months.. (it is the only joint that mole has practiced cough). So it turns out to be a simple coin collecting box at the beginning, you show the protype to your customer (your friend), and the customer begins to specificy his requirement… (the customer’s name is Hippo) .. he told you that since the prototype really looks like a box, he will like to have a secure box, to keep valuable items Rich got it right, hu hu hu.
So, you come back to your hut, and begin to modify your simple box, with your only dovetailing skill,.. and (another confess) .. you quickly build the 4 surrounding massive wall with your familiar fat dovetail (no, but it is not for explosion control, hu hu).. and, after a lot of sweat, you begin to realize that, you forget to leave some area to properly add the bottom floor (another confess), so, ... with your only not-so-proud skill, you come up with the…..god-i-guess-that-it-is-not-too-difficult-for-amateur-like-me solution.. sobs then, the mighty DT box, with mighty DT bottom,..
And, again, since you are building the mighty box like an extendable condomenium,.. and you have changed your mind, from building a simple tonge & groove sliding roof, you come up with the mighty-god-i-guess-that-this-hinge-is-also-not-too-difficult solution… so, you quickly pull out your proud North Bros 2100 bit brace, and begin the long drill.. phew after a few inch of drilling, you begin to realize (again) that, em, it is not too easy to drill 7 inch straight, using 3/8” auger bit into the side of a 3/4” piece of wood.. so you quickly bring out your power drill along with the new cheapto 14” long 3/8” twist drill bit, and begin to prey.. ah, it comes out..ok!
Without any glue, the 8 god-it-is-so-difficult-me-for amateur hand cut DT pieces at the bottom, come out..as some are tight, and some are a little not tight :} (excuse: oh god, it is not too tight coz’ there might be some wood movement later bluff, mighty mole has no such good experience for dealing with wood movement confess confess) but, they can hold the mighty bottom quite fine right now, and.. since mr.Hippo wants a secure box, it is mandatory to pump in some glue anyway :} so, I will just dip this DT box into Danish oil, and glue it so, it will have both god mechanic strength + chemical strength, hu hu hu
I hope that the mighty Danish oil may help slow down any upcoming wood movement (?), the hippo-box will have to live in 32-38 Celcius, with high humidity for the whole year in Thailand…em..I will have mr.Hippo report back on any change happend to the mighty box then :}
#11 posted 04-20-2010 05:54 PM
Steeveeee, I found that, the hard part with the bottom dovetail, is when I glue them, I glue the bottom floor to the 3/4” thick wall, and have to quickly glue all dovetail keys into every holes. If the bottom floor is not attached properly, it will surely affect the key hole, and..then, glue setting time is coming after you!
better, design the wall which has dovetail to carry/lock the bottom piece since the beginning should be more comfortable :P (like the piggy box project)
#12 posted 04-20-2010 06:02 PM
Jim Crocket, em, I guess that if I have to make such hinge again next time, some dowel jigs might be able to help me drill the long straight hole.. uh mole has no drill press. ahem, may be the antique Stanley 59 dowel jig + my mighty bit brace may be able to achieve the 7 inch deep! em, 3/8” hole into the side of 3/4” wood piece scares me a little though.. I have to protect the mighty wood from cracking by the power of bit brace.
After all, I use a lot of file, to shape the hinge, I use a dowel plate to make 3/8” dowel, next time I will use my power drill to turn the dowel rod that reside in the hinge! something like Incra hinge crafter jig might be nice, but then, I have no plane to buy any router yet :} hand tool first..
#13 posted 04-20-2010 06:10 PM
Dean, yeah, the DT is quite overkill, next time, when I have practiced other kind of joint, I promise that I will have less DT hu hu hu. it is fun to use mechanical strength. But, after, there are too many, mole become so tired during the making of that 8 DT bottom socket/key! tired tired
#14 posted 04-20-2010 06:19 PM
Jim, tell me more about the wood movement that may happend, I still have very few experience in this area, I still wonder what will happend with the piggy box that I sent to USA, I plan to ask my friend to examine the piggy box too, that one has no glue, and use only dovetail joint to complete the whole box. I only put Danish oil on to the box too (quite saturate). hoping that it might help protect the mighty box from changes in humidity.. (the piggy box is now living in Michigan) .. it was born in Thailand, in quite-hot/high humid environment…
#15 posted 04-20-2010 06:25 PM
Jim, oh, the dovetail keys can hold the bottom floor along with the body quite tight, but then I have to glue it to make it suitable for secure objective. (it becomes jewellery box now)
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