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#1 posted 01-30-2010 11:51 PM
Hi there, very nice looking maple cabinet… well done…Wisty
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#2 posted 01-30-2010 11:52 PM
Also, the pics really do not do the unit a ton of justice, it actually looks even nicer in person. I am not much of a photographer. Also, in a couple pics it looks like there is some swirl looks on the tall doors but that is actually because I had just went over everything with Lemon Oil and rag and it was partly wet in some areas.
OK guys, have at it, rip it apart so I can make it better next time. Well, just funnin, it actually worked very well though I know I can improve.
One improvement we will do in the future. We will sand all end grain to 320 grit because the end grain areas took the stain very dark which I do not find attractive.
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#3 posted 01-31-2010 01:07 AM
Very nice project.. though sanding to 320 grit probably will still make the end grain darker… One trick I have learned over the years is to take some of the stain out of the end grain will varsol. Just keep wiping off the stain till you get the desired end grain color. Also don’t leave the stain on to soak in and be quick to apply and then wipe with the varsol. But looks great to me, one more thing I would suggest is to be a bit more selective of your pieces for the rails and styles. I noticed on the TV doors the grain doesn’t flow well from piece to piece. Just minor issues though. Great job.
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#4 posted 01-31-2010 05:45 AM
I really like the design , but the stain job and grain selection is just way too amateur. There isn’t a single panel shown in your pictures with an even coat of stain on it. Sanding the end grain to only 320 won’t help .I’ll never understand why people take a beautiful wood like Maple and try to stain it an unnatural color. You should have recommended real Hickory or Pecan or possibly even Walnut to your customers.If it was in my house , I’d have to paint over it.Sorry , JMHO.
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#5 posted 01-31-2010 05:50 AM
Very nice work looks great
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#6 posted 01-31-2010 05:55 AM
Jerry, Your maple cabinet turned out looking great. Sounds like you’re learning alot about finishing maple. Here’s a trick I do when I’m doing double doors that close together without a stile between them. I cut the two door stiles that are going to be together when the doors are closed from the same board. Example; If I’m making my stiles 2 1/4” wide, I will take a board that’s 4 5/8” wide and rip it down the middle.(One will become the right stile of one door and the other will become the left stile for the other door You have to keep track of your stiles when you’re making your doors, but it’s worth the extra effort at the end and it’s surprising that most customers won’t notice it until you point it out and then they can’t wait to point it out to their friends. It’s the little details like that which will make you stand out with your customers. Good luck and keep up the good work.
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#7 posted 01-31-2010 06:20 AM
Thanks guys for the feedback. I agree that I still have a ways to go. I started woodworking back in 2002 and have learned a lot here and there. I agree that being more picky on the boards I use should be a higher priority, especially with them being in the same door or in a groupiing of doors. Being grain and board selective is not a skill or technique I have worked on much. Truthfully I try to avoid maple because of the many issues I have run across with using maple. Being more selective will be a priority in the future though. I do see what is being mentioned with the grains not running well or matching well between styles and rails, etc… I also hate my end grain being extremely dark. I am going to try and sand end grain to 320 but I will also use the technique mentioned by Sandman earlier. I do know the stain removal technique is effective. On my first kitchen job I ever did, 1/2 the doors came out with more color and in order to even out the doors on that job I used a laquer thinner soaked rag that I used to remove color/stain from some of the doors and everything evened out nicely. (by the way, the only reason the doors were two different shades on that job was because the first 1/2 of doors was stained with a gallon not thoroughly mixed properly, again that was my first kitchen and I have learned a ton since then have a ton to go) So yes, I know I could have removed some of the stain/color from the end grain. I really should have removed color from the end grain on this job.
I really do appreciate the advice from everyone though. I assure everyone my next maple job will even be better then this one armed with more knowledge and new things to work on. In the past I have had a lot of problems with “splotching” and small scratch/sander marks showing through the stain. Stuff you don’t see on maple until it is stained but I am claiming victory on this job since that was not an issue for us at all and I credit sanding up through 220 on this job.
Also, about the overall looks, I guess it is a matter of taste. Me personally, I like the strong variation of colors in hickory and find very even colors not as attractive. We have stained beech (takes stain very even) and oak (takes stain very even also). So I guess I like the different the variation of shades on this job and the main thing was the customer was very happy. I like what John said about cutting side by side styles from the same board. Those are the little things I want to work on and get better at. We have come a long way but have a long way to go. By the way, those doors are held together with mortised SOSS hinges.
#8 posted 01-31-2010 06:32 AM
Oh yeah, this wall unit was modeled after this wall unit on this web page.
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#9 posted 02-09-2010 03:01 PM
Bet that was fun fitting between those two walls. Looks nice. Curious as to why the nooks are not the same color as the cabinet.
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#10 posted 02-09-2010 04:11 PM
Thanks for the compliments. I typically build kitchens and I do not stain the inside of the cabinets. When looking at this unit I wonder if the nook areas should have been stained? In the component section above the TV the customer now has his AV equipment in their so it looks really nice but the upper section and tower section might have benefited from being stained. I do not look forward to building wall units because I have not done a lot of them and things are not all that standard as far as dimensions. It does present a challenge that I do like though.
Also, I installed magnetic latches that recess into the doors in order to allow the doors to fold flat onto each other nicely, the magnetic latches have stained wood caps on them and so they are concealed and work very nice by the way.
Far as building between the walls, there is the challenge. I build under sized then used filler strips to give the full built in look.
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#11 posted 02-12-2010 03:45 AM
Very, very nice. The grain really pops.
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