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New Handles for my Experimental Tools

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Project by Jim Jakosh posted 09-15-2016 08:06 PM 826 views 0 times favorited 24 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I finally finished these tools I wanted to try out so I had to make handles for them.
The handles are about 1 3/4” x 13” long and made from a sandwich of walnut and maple.
The ferrules are steel from an old rusty piece of pipe I had that was just the right size.
They are finished with clear lacquer.

The first tool is a negative rake scraper for inside of bowls. I found a drawing of one and it has an included angle of 65 degrees- 25 on the top and 40 on the bottom in case someone wants to make one. It is ground to shape and will be sharpened with a diamond hone. It cuts pretty good.

For the second tool I was goofing around with a design I saw a guy from Ireland make from a box end wrench. I tried to copy the ring design . When I tried it out, it was super aggressive with that slim edge – so much so that the edge shattered in places ( 4th shot). I wish I could have used high speed steel but both of these are made from O-1 and hardened and not drawn back very much at all. I ground the top of the ring flat giving it a negative rake also and it cuts pretty good with real fine chips.. It is a novelty and never will replace my 5/8” bowl gouge.

Cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!





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Mark Wilson

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#1 posted 09-15-2016 08:19 PM

I’ve always thought those ring tools were presented with the small side doing the cutting.
Ring tool made from a box-end wrench? I have lots of those. Hmm. How, prithee, does one go about grinding the inside of the box? “One,” that is, who lacks an engine lathe or a milling machine.

-- Mark

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Druid

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#2 posted 09-15-2016 08:28 PM

How about that…. Innovation and discovery all in one project. Have you considered trying some steel from a flat file for the ring design? Thanks for posting the ideas.

-- John, British Columbia, Canada

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Richard W. Hyman Jr

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#3 posted 09-15-2016 08:36 PM

Wow. Impressive enough that you’re making your own tools. Those handles look great as well.

-- VR, Richard "Fear is nothing more than a feeling. You feel hot. You feel hungry. You feel angry. You feel afraid. Fear can never kill you"--Remo Williams

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Joe Lyddon

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#4 posted 09-15-2016 08:41 PM

Reminds me of the Easy Tools approach…

Looks good!

You are awesome, Jim!

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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lew

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#5 posted 09-15-2016 08:54 PM

Classy handles for some really well made tools.

Like Mark, I wonder how you turned the wrench into a turning tool.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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ZAGREB

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#6 posted 09-15-2016 08:56 PM

very interesting tools,I hope it works
Beauty and handy handles
I”ll show you tomorow my handmade tool,maybe inspired you…
Have a nice day,Jim

-- bambi

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kiefer

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#7 posted 09-15-2016 09:09 PM

The handles look superb Jim and nice to see you experimenting with ideas that may lead to new tool designs down the road it’s the only way to get there .

Klaus

-- Kiefer https://www.youtube.com/user/woodkiefer1/videos

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Bob Collins

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#8 posted 09-15-2016 10:20 PM

Nice handles Jim and I like the idea of your experimenting with tools. Like the negative rake scraper would be handy for smoothing of the Milliput inlays I did. Keep them coming.

-- Bob C, Australia. I love sharing as long as it is not my tools

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michelletwo

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#9 posted 09-15-2016 11:09 PM

you are getting dangerous :-) the neg. rake looks like a useful tool, and the handles look real comfy. I thinkthe old ring tools used to be for end grain …

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Jim Jakosh

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#10 posted 09-15-2016 11:27 PM

Thank you all for the nice comments.

Hi Mark and Lew. The guy that made the cutter out of box wrench, had a forge. He did his shaping on it when it was red hot , ground it to shape and the re heat treated the steel for cutting. It must have been high carbon steel. I could not find the video again!!

Hi John, I could make one from a file if I had a forge so I could work it into shape when it was red hot. Files are 65 Rockwell C hard and I could just grind one, but not put the hole in it. I did this one from O-1 steel in the soft stage and then hardened it.

Hi Bob, I have always wanted a wide curved negative rake scraper so I decided to make one. I’m not that steady to drag a gouge inside a bowl and not get ridges.I think it would work good for inlay material too.

Hi Michelle. I’ll have to do more research on this ring tool. It may get more use than I thought. I am out of space on my tool rack now so I’ll need to make an addition or second story to fit these new additions!.

Cheers, Jim!!

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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peteg

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#11 posted 09-15-2016 11:37 PM

You’re just havin tooo much fun Jim :)
You can get a lot of satisfaction playing with new tools especially if you can get it right. Nice going mate
cheers
pete

-- Pete G: If you always do what you always did you'll always get what you always got

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BobWemm

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#12 posted 09-15-2016 11:45 PM

Looking good Jim. Great job mate.

-- Bob, Western Australia, The Sun came up this morning, what a great start to the day. Now it's up to me to make it even better. I've cut this piece of wood 4 times and it's still too damn short.

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Jim Jakosh

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#13 posted 09-15-2016 11:45 PM

Thanks Pete and Bob!!!!!!!!!!

cheers, mates….....................Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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doubleDD

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#14 posted 09-16-2016 12:04 AM

Credit is due Jim for experimenting with the turning tools. Great ideas are out there just for the trying. The negative scraper is very interesting. Will have to look into this more. I made one I call the bark buster. Great for removing bark and out of round logs.

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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Grumpy

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#15 posted 09-16-2016 03:24 AM

Well done on the tools Jim & the handles as well.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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