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My 2nd home made carving gouge set

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Project by Planeman40 posted 08-31-2016 09:42 PM 1098 views 6 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch

A year ago I posted 31 socket type carving gouges I made (“http://lumberjocks.com/projects/183218”), now I am posting 31 tang type carving gouges I made. The first photo is of the larger gouges, the second is of the smaller gouges. All of the handles are the same size. As the story of the hand forged carving irons was told in detail in the above link, so I’ll skip this part. The handles for the tang type gouges were made of curly maple and turned on my 1940s vintage Delta 12” wood lathe using a copier I made from ShopNotes drawings (“http://lumberjocks.com/projects/183642”). The ferrules are 3/8” copper plumbing end caps. The tang type gouges were less work than the socket type as there was no lengthy hand-fitting of the handles to the gouge irons. Finishing of the handles was first dyeing the wood with water soluble yellow TransTint wood dye to make the grain “pop”, then two coats of thin shellac before the first sanding. Then two more coats of shellac and the final sanding ending with polishing with 0000 steel wool. The final coat was Minwax gloss polyurethane. Each gouge had the cutting end carefully ground and properly shaped, then sharpened to a razor sharp edge, enough to easily shave the hair off my forearm which is my test for sharpness. It was a lot of work, but there is great satisfaction in using tools that you have made!

Planeman

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!





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woodchuckerNJ

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#1 posted 08-31-2016 10:01 PM

Nice work .
Would love to get the source of the steel you had for the socket style.

-- Jeff NJ

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tyvekboy

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#2 posted 08-31-2016 10:04 PM

Those look really great! I looked at your other post and found the like to the source of the rough carving tools. Thanks for sharing your find and all your chisels.

-- Tyvekboy -- Marietta, GA ………….. one can never be too organized

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Planeman40

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#3 posted 08-31-2016 10:10 PM

The source of the hand forged irons is noted in the page about my socket type gouges (http://lumberjocks.com/projects/183218). When asked about this I replied ” I anticipated the “where to get” question would come up. Here is a link to the seller which is a Chinese luthier’s supply company. This company has a lot of other nice luthiers type tools. You should take a look. http://www.ebay.com/itm/62pcs-ASSORTED-LOT-WOOD-CARVING-TOOLS-Wood-Chisel-/331469374458?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d2d1d43fa

Planeman

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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woodchuckerNJ

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#4 posted 08-31-2016 10:55 PM

Thanks for the ebay link.
The lumberjock link does not work..

-- Jeff NJ

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helluvawreck

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#5 posted 09-01-2016 04:46 PM

This is a very impressive set of tools.

helluvawreck aka Charles
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Jeremymcon

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#6 posted 09-01-2016 04:57 PM

Holy cow! Thanks so much for this post and the link to the previous. I have been wanting to acquire some carving gauges for quite a while now. But I never know which of the Chinese ones are reliable, and at $30 to $60 a piece, I certainly can’t afford a set of pfiel gouges! Making my own would be interesting. Even if I got a few reliable gouges from this set it’d be worth the money. Be an interesting experience to grind so many gouges and shape so many handles too.

I do have a question – do you ever find that the sharp corners on these gouges catch on your work? I think I saw a recommendation in the eBay listing that you file them off for some applications?

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Planeman40

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#7 posted 09-01-2016 06:54 PM

First of all, Woodcarvers Supply (http://www.woodcarverssupply.com/) has what I am convinced are the very same carving gouges as I have but completed with handles. The prices are good, the selection is good, and you don’t have to anything but do some final shaping and sharpening which ALL commercial carving tools need. They are under their Mastercarver Hand Forged brand.

Regarding the corners, the corners can catch on your work if you are not careful, but it may a moot point as after a few sharpenings the corners usually round off anyway. I always sharpen using a magnifying visor so I can really see what is happening. This can enable you to keep the corners if you like. If you can see the gouge edge when looking straight on under a strong light, it ain’t really sharp! If you can shave the hair off your forearm, it’s sharp! If you can shave ALL the hair off in one pass, its REALLY sharp! I go for the latter.

Planeman

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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ronstar

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#8 posted 09-01-2016 10:44 PM

Awesome set of gouges!

-- Ron, Northern Illinois

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Jeremymcon

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#9 posted 09-03-2016 01:59 AM

FYI, the complete set of gouges is for sale from the vendor you linked to, with handles (admittedly, not beautiful handles, but handles) and what appears to be at least roughly ground edges for $155! So for only $30 more I can save myself having to buy lumber, and also send the work making handles. Your set is gorgeous, but I don’t even know if I’d like carving. I’d rather not expend so much time and energy handling all these gouges if I didn’t have to.

I had no idea where to even start with carving since quality gouges were so expensive! With this set I’ll spend what I’d spend on like 4 pfiel gouges, and get essentially a complete set.

Thanks again for your post. Good to know that there exist quality gouges in my price range somewhere in the world.

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Jeremymcon

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#10 posted 09-03-2016 02:01 AM

Oh I should ask though – were there any spoon gouges in your set? Or are they all straight? I can’t tell from the images on the listing.

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Planeman40

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#11 posted 09-03-2016 02:58 AM

No spoon gouges in my set. Maybe another project later. Also, you don’t need a full set of gouges. Five or six total of various sizes and curves will get you started. Spoon gouges and other odd shapes are handy to have but are used rarely. You can get by with just a few to see if you like carving and have any talent for it. If you do, then buy a tool when you have a need for it. Its not so expensive that way. Carving is like sculpting. You have to develop and eye for it as well as the ability to carve. Carving ans sculpting is easy. All you have to do is take away anything that doesn’t look like the model you are working from! (old joke) Accurately laying out the project onto the wood with a pencil is a must! Do it on paper, then when you are happy after making a front and side view, paste the paper onto the front and side of the carving block and cutout the front and side profiles. then get to work with the gouges. It takes practice. I have been woodworking and carving for 60 years.

Planeman

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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Jeremymcon

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#12 posted 09-03-2016 04:43 AM

Yes I know I wouldn’t need have 62 gouges to get started. But for that price I could hardly get 5 or 6 decent ones anyplace else! And if I end up not liking carving I can always resell the set or the chisels individually. The other website you referred me to was selling like 13 gouges for the same price as the set of 62 from the Chinese seller on eBay. May as well get the complete set, right?

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Planeman40

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#13 posted 09-03-2016 01:20 PM

From a cost point of view, right. But . . . be prepared to do a LOT of work!

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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GR8HUNTER

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#14 posted 09-03-2016 02:57 PM

WOW ….wish I had a set like that …........ send it to me thanks …........LMAO ….......GREAT JOB

GRATZ TOP 3

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JPJ

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#15 posted 09-07-2016 03:24 AM

Nice job!

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