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Project by Monte McCoy posted 1697 days ago 1694 views 0 times favorited 24 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Ok so this is a maple mirror frame i made for a customer. If you look close you can see the edge detail that i did with a 4” grinder and sanding disc. What i would like suggestions or ideas about is how to make a jig or template to recreate this look using my router. I really like this look but doing it with a grinder is extremely difficult and very very time consuming. let alone the risk of one tiny slip which would scrap the whole project. So any ideas would be very much appreciated!! (Thats my little helper Abbi)

—You can see the detail much better if you click the zoom—
UPDATE—i added some pics of a sketchup designed template thought of by many helpful people, do you think it will work correctly? ( the drawing is supposed to be a chamfer bit in a brass template guide bushing following the half circle template)

-- -- With the right tools and material you are only limited by your imagination--





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cstrang

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#1 posted 1697 days ago

Hmm, maybe if you cut out semi circles in a sheet on 1/4” MDF and used a chamfer bit in your router, clamped the jig to the picture frame and route away. It may take a bit of time to get the jig perfect at first but if you plan on doing more than one I think it would be worth it.

-- A hammer dangling from a wall will bang and sound like work when the wind blows the right way.

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Monty Queen

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#2 posted 1697 days ago

Wow: Cstrang had a good idea, I would do what he said but make a template the lenth of the longest side and then cut the semi circle all the way down the template, Then clamp it down, maybe use some carpet tape plus the clamps. Then used the chamfer bit, I think that will work. The chamfer bit must have a guide so it can guide against the template.

-- Monty Q, Columbia, South Carolina.

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Monte McCoy

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#3 posted 1697 days ago

what would keep the chamfer bit from eating into the mdf? maybe a top guide bearing? is there such a thing when it comes to chamfer bits? I know that they make flush cut bits with bearings on top or bottom but havent seen a chamfer bit with a top bearing.

-- -- With the right tools and material you are only limited by your imagination--

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hooky

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#4 posted 1697 days ago

everyone else looks like they had the same idea as me

got to love the supervisor taking an interest

Hooky

-- Happiness is a way of travel , not a destination (Roy Goodman)

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Monte McCoy

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#5 posted 1697 days ago

I searched around for bits and cant seem to find any top bearing chamfer bits, There is top bearing flush cut and top bearing ogee bits but nada for chamfer. can i add a top bearing to a standard chamfer bit? Your idea definitley sounds like it will work if i can find a bit to follow the template

-- -- With the right tools and material you are only limited by your imagination--

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huff

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#6 posted 1697 days ago

Your pilot bearing is on the bottom of the chamber bit, so if you are going to build a template, you will need to do it with the scallop running along the edge of your frame so the pilot bearing will have something to ride against to keep it from cutting into the frame except for the scallop itself. Make sense? your template has to be for the guide bearing, not the cutter, so it would have to be made out of thicker stock and mounted to the edge of the frame so the guide bearing rides along the scallop. That could be cut out with a bandsaw or jig saw and mount it along the edge with double face tape so you don’t have to deal with clamps in the way.
Just food for thought. LOL. BTW. I like the look of your picture frame and You have a really cute little “hard hat helper”.

-- John @ http://www.thehuffordfurnituregroup.com

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cstrang

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#7 posted 1697 days ago

Might be able to use these http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=47249&cat=1,43000,51208&ap=1

-- A hammer dangling from a wall will bang and sound like work when the wind blows the right way.

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Monte McCoy

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#8 posted 1697 days ago

Huff i think im still confused, it seems to me that the pilot bearing on the bottom of the bit would just follow the straight edge of the material im routing. in the method your describing is the template on top of the material? sandwhiched between the router base plate and the material with the design edge flush with the material face? if so i dont see how the pilot bearing will follow it. I really appreciate everyones help, but like i said, im still lost

-- -- With the right tools and material you are only limited by your imagination--

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Monte McCoy

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#9 posted 1697 days ago

Hey CSTRANG YOUR RIGHT!! those would work perfect!! the brass bushing would follow the template edge perfectly! Thank you all very much for the advice! This website is awesome to be a part of!!

-- -- With the right tools and material you are only limited by your imagination--

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cstrang

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#10 posted 1697 days ago

No problem, anytime. Everyone here is always more than happy to help, and getting so involved eariler I completly forgot to say welcome to Lj’s!

-- A hammer dangling from a wall will bang and sound like work when the wind blows the right way.

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Monte McCoy

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#11 posted 1697 days ago

Thanks again Everyone!

-- -- With the right tools and material you are only limited by your imagination--

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Monte McCoy

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#12 posted 1697 days ago

WOW Bently!! what program did you use to make that?? that is awesome!

-- -- With the right tools and material you are only limited by your imagination--

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rf58

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#13 posted 1697 days ago

what program did you use to make that drawing?

-- rf58, Illinois

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MOJOE

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#14 posted 1697 days ago

I think you would have to create a semi-circle pattern and then using a straight cutting bit, place a “wedge” under or attached to your router’s base plate. This should give you the proper cutting depth and configuration…...I think!

-- Measuring twice and cutting once only works if you read the tape correctly!

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Monte McCoy

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#15 posted 1697 days ago

That drawing definitley explains huffs idea and would also work great! just goes to show there is always more than one way to Aquire the same end result! Thanks guys i really appreciate it. That was way above and beyond any help you would ever find elsewhere on the web!

-- -- With the right tools and material you are only limited by your imagination--

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