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Build A Box Upside Down For Perfect Fitting Lids (with Build Video)

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Project by Katz-Moses Woodworking posted 03-14-2016 11:03 PM 1460 views 6 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I built this box as one piece out of Wenge and Walnut with Wenge Splines, top and bottom. In one of the last steps I cut the lid free. This allows you to get perfect fitting lids every time regardless of any mistakes you made, if it’s out of square, or you sanded one corner to much. Making lids is frustrating and this is an easy way to build a box with a perfect fitting lid every time.
Check out the build video (please subscribe if you like it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVhQ5G7P7_k
check out my Facebook page for 100s of pics of past projects: facebook.com/katzmoseswoodworking

I love the LJ community and this video was my first full scale build video. I would appreciate any constructive criticism, questions and ideas for future stuff you have. Cheers!

-- If you want it to take longer and cost more, get into woodworking. It's worth every second and every penny because nothing, is more rewarding than creating something with your own two hands.





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observer100

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#1 posted 03-15-2016 12:09 AM

Nice project and good YouTube video! You held my attention all the way through the video.

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#2 posted 03-15-2016 01:25 AM

Nice work.

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"

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Katz-Moses Woodworking

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#3 posted 03-15-2016 01:50 AM

Thank you so much guys! I really appreciate the feedback!

-- If you want it to take longer and cost more, get into woodworking. It's worth every second and every penny because nothing, is more rewarding than creating something with your own two hands.

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#4 posted 03-15-2016 06:16 AM

Johnathan, nice job on the box and the video. Both are very professionally done. I especially like the finish technique.

I am not sure building the box upside down has a definite advantage over building it right side up and cutting off the lid from the top. The grain would match a little better right side up and you are basically making the same cut to separate the two. What did I miss that makes building it upside down a better technique?

Laying the box sides with the inside face down, lining them up on a longer board, and applying one continuous piece of tape seems more efficient and quicker than the one at a time technique you propose.

I enjoyed watching your box building and technique. Thanks for sharing. Best of luck on your video venture.

-- Big Al in IN

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#5 posted 03-15-2016 09:59 AM

Awesome box, I like choice of wood combination. Nice way to hide mistakes,good idea.

-- Ivan, Croatia, Wooddicted

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#6 posted 03-15-2016 12:58 PM

Nice box and an intersting idea but I gotta agree with Big Al. I dont see the advantages to making it upside down. If you build it right side up you can get the grain to match and you are making the same cut so if something is out of square slightly the lid is still gonna fit. One way anyway.

-- Andy Smith https://www.etsy.com/shop/xrayhardwoods

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#7 posted 03-15-2016 02:42 PM

I watched a minute ago.. way too fast for me to understand.

-- Bruce. a mind is like a book it is only useful when open.

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Katz-Moses Woodworking

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#8 posted 03-15-2016 03:28 PM

I ear you guys. It is more of a box for wood without an intense grain pattern. It is a great technique if you’re trying to get something done fast. For example, a quick gift box. I appreciate the kind words. Bruce, it was a lot of info to fit into one video. I learned I’m going to have to skip some aspects in finishing and milling to get the time down so I don’t have to fast forward so fast. Thanks guys!

-- If you want it to take longer and cost more, get into woodworking. It's worth every second and every penny because nothing, is more rewarding than creating something with your own two hands.

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#9 posted 03-15-2016 04:55 PM

This is a fine looking box. Congratulations and welcome to Lumberjocks.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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Katz-Moses Woodworking

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#10 posted 03-15-2016 08:15 PM

Love your site Charles. Thank you!

-- If you want it to take longer and cost more, get into woodworking. It's worth every second and every penny because nothing, is more rewarding than creating something with your own two hands.

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Matt

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#11 posted 03-16-2016 12:11 AM

nice work! clever way to match the box and lid. Any particular reason you didn’t cut the lid off at the top instead of the bottom?

-- I do this for fun.

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Katz-Moses Woodworking

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#12 posted 03-16-2016 12:15 AM

Thanks Matt! The reason you need to do it from the bottom in this method is that you have to cut the rabbets before glue up to get the lid to fit perfectly. If you cut it from the top it would be easy to cut the rabbits into the box after you cut the lid off but you would need a router to cut the rabbits into the lid. That way you have to use a chisel to square up the corners and you risk going too far with your rabbeting bit. There are lots of ways to build a box with a tight-fitting lid. I made this video because there didn’t seem to be any videos on YouTube that shows a way to quickly do it. Thank you so much for your kind words.

-- If you want it to take longer and cost more, get into woodworking. It's worth every second and every penny because nothing, is more rewarding than creating something with your own two hands.

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