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Project by ToddE posted 53 days ago 1671 views 0 times favorited 68 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I have been really praying to God for a long time for a lathe. It was one of those tools that are nice to have, but for the money, there are more things of necessity to buy. God came through big time!!!! I got a call from a school district that told me that they knew I was looking for bigger industrial tools. Wait, let me say that again, I got a call from a school district that told me that they knew I was looking for bigger industrial tools! Anywho, the gentleman told me they were getting rid of their cabinet program and wanted to know if I would be interested in any of their tools. Needless to say I have been waiting on pins and needles for that, “Okay, come on up” phone call.
Well I had to meet him at 0830 this morning. I was told by a teacher friend that I should just bring my trailer and to trust him on that. I was just going to grab the lathe, but I got such a good deal I just kept going. Oh my, what a blessing!!!!! What a blessing!!!!! I got one of the most premiere lathes General 260, a 20” Powermatic bandsaw, a new The Original Saw radial arm saw, a really great ol’ Powermatic mortising machine, and the Grizzly spindle sander. I also got about 20 Johansson wooden clamps AND over 20 gallons of Minwax stains! Crazy!!!!!
This is the first time in my life I can say, except for the 20” Grizzly planer, that I got a fantastic, awesome deal! I would never in a million years dream of getting this equipment. Now, I have to find room for it. I can’t wait to start re-sawing with that 12” high, 20” wide bandsaw, or do I just make cross cuts all day, or should I just turn away on the lathe? Man, what a great problem to have, where do I put this stuff?
You know, it was pouring when I got to the school and as soon as the first machine was loaded, by the students no less!, it quit raining. My friend and I unloaded all the machinery and it started pouring again, just as we walked in the shop with the last tool! Thanks God, good job! Not trying to rub it in, just trying to say thanks where it is due and to let you LJ’ers know where to look for good equipment at a fantastically great price!

-- Do we do this for purpose or passion?


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vonhagen

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posted 53 days ago

wow what a score, that powermatic bandsaw is a very good saw , made in usa, and that radial saw is nice as is the rest of the machines, im jealous lol. have fun with the new tools

-- blaine von hagen

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ToddE

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posted 53 days ago

I didn’t believe that they were mine until I got them in my shop and couldn’t walk! My face hurts from pinching myself so much! I don’t want to go to sleep, I just want to stay out in the shop and just sit and look at them

-- Do we do this for purpose or passion?

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RetiredCoastie

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posted 53 days ago

Very nice! I’m happy for you and hope you get many hours of joy from your new acquisition.

-- Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Mike D.

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okwoodshop

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posted 53 days ago

Nice toys, I had to get my grandsons bib to catch the drool. let us know when your feet touch the ground again lol

-- Duane,matt_megan@twlakes.net

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vonhagen

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posted 53 days ago

i know the feeling , i just got back from kauai hawaii and in the three months i was there i bought over 6 grand worth of hand tools and had them all shiped to my home in sandiego so when i got home it was like christmas and the tool box i built is on here with all of them inside

-- blaine von hagen

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Neodogg

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posted 53 days ago

I mean this from the bottom of my heart, I hate you :)

-- If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem!

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kolwdwrkr

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posted 53 days ago

Lucky you, or unlucky me? LOL

-- ~ Inspiring those who inspire me ~

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cajunpen

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posted 53 days ago

Good for you Todd!!!!! Hope you enjoy using them.

-- Bill - "Suit yourself and let the rest be pleased." http://www.cajunpen.com/

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a1Jim

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posted 53 days ago

congrats Todd

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

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Napaman

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posted 53 days ago

thats great…they look like they are in good shape…enjoy…

-- Matt, Napa, CA...fun is beautiful...just trying to have some fun...

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Bob A in NJ

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posted 53 days ago

Wow, Holy smokes! What a great deal.

-- Bob A in NJ

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lightweightladyleftie

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posted 53 days ago

Todd,

You really have been blessed. Now, use it to God’s glory!

-- "But godliness with contentment is great gain." 1 Timothy 6:6

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BarryW

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posted 53 days ago

Sure, it might be an answer to prayer, mostly likely excellent networking, but do they come with the original manuals. That would be a real miracle.

-- /\/\/\ BarryW /\/\/\ Stay so busy you don't have time to die.

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woodworm

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posted 53 days ago

Youre very lucky. Congratulations!
Thanks God. Can you promise Him not to cut down trees? I’m so jealous, actually!

-- masrol, kuala lumpur, MY.

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nmkidd

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posted 53 days ago

A find like this is something everyone on a buget hopes for…...Enjoy!

-- Doug, New Mexico.......the only stupid question is one that is never asked!........don't fix it, if it ain't broke!

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scrappy

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posted 53 days ago

Fantastic tool score! Can’t wait to see the shop set up and the projects start rolling out.

I am VERY enviouse of that lathe. It makes my craftsman look like a toy.

Scrappy

-- Scrap Wood's the best...the projects are smaller, and so is the mess!

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ladiesman217

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posted 53 days ago

when you die, might I inherit this all? Just kidding, that was an awesome steal! Enjoy your toys.

-- Freedom is the right of all sentient beings

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ken90712

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posted 53 days ago

Great to see they will continue their life with a woodworker that will love them.

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"

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stefang

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posted 53 days ago

Todd, I am really glad for you. I can only imagine how you feel about getting so many and so good quality machines all at once. Like Scrappy, I would especially love to have that General lathe, and the giant Powermatic bandsaw would probably place second. I’m glad someone young like yourself has gotten them, as you should be ablel to take full advantage of their capacity and enjoy them for a long time. Congratulations! Looking forward to a lot of great projects.

-- Mike, American in Norway

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lumberdustjohn

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posted 53 days ago

Nice find. The band saw would be sweet in my shop.
Congrats to you!

-- John Stoler Apple Creek Ohio

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Mike Gager

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posted 53 days ago

dang, god never gave me anything i asked for. good score!

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huff

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posted 53 days ago

Todd, Congrats on the tools. That’s one impressive load of tools. Enjoy, Enjoy,Enjoy!......may the saw dust never settle in your shop!

-- John @ Myrtle Beach

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patron

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posted 53 days ago

that you can thank God for this find ,
is a testament to your worthiness .

enjoy this great gift !

they are shutting down woodworking classes here also ,
and music and art .

like , who needs them ?

much better to have more investment bankers ,
lawyers , and accountants !

i don’t mean to demean your good fortune ,
God knows you are worthy of this .

perhaps you can find a way ,
to pay this forward ?

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

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Daren Nelson

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posted 53 days ago

Awesome !

-- Urban logger, http://nelsonwoodworks.biz/

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lumberdog

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posted 53 days ago

Awesome ! you should think about paying this good fortune forward, maybe by offering it to the next person at/or close to the same deal that you got it for. With the disappearance of wood shop classes and industrial art classes in our schools, it is more or less up to the woodworkers in this country to help those future woodworkers all we can. I worked for a local school district for 30 yrs. and i have watched these classes being fazed out, and it makes you wonder what the administrators are thinking about.I believe that good fortune is meant to be shared.

Lumberdog, Morley,Michigan

-- Lumberdog.. Morley, Michigan

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ToddE

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posted 53 days ago

I did make an offer to the wood shop class, that is still going to be there, for me to come in and help. I think they are keeping the general carpentry class. Those kids were running around with screwdrivers and stuff in their hands, just dying to take center door frame supports our and wings and knobs of the machines, just to get them out the door. It is sad though that they are giving up the program. PATRON: I see what you are saying to. I eventually moved back to my hometown to take care of my ill parents. I was shocked when I saw that when I was in band we had over 300 people and were state and national champs 3 years in a row. They have 37 people in the band, so sad! But, the schools need to recognize the ability of the group leaders as well. In this situation, it is the teacher that is at fault and none of the kids want to be a part of band because of her. However, this cabinet class was phased out because they started a new electric program. So, its a here or there type of thing. But, I am going to pay my bills and go hang on the powermatic. Lots of wiring to do.

-- Do we do this for purpose or passion?

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notottoman

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posted 53 days ago

Set for life !
Reminds me of a luthier friend…..
It was looking as if he was set to accumulate his tools and set up his workshop for the next 15 years….
Then an unfortunate accident happend to a well known luthier… He lost his life in an accident….
His family could not bear the pain of getting rid of his estate(Tools, Machines<woodstock>what have you..)
So they asked my friend to come up from the coast,,,, take everything and give something to the family estate..
He is now set for life and doing so well. www.corrguitars.co.za
Everything for a reason…...
Now you follow that dream.

-- "Even small steps makes a distance." (Shawn Phillips, musician)

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patron

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posted 53 days ago

the good Lord chose well in you , todd .
and i’m sure he wouldn’t mind ,
you making something on your to-do list .
( to learn the tools ) ! :-)

bless you , and play safe !

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

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Karson

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posted 53 days ago

Congratulation on your blessing. May all the praise be to the Lord.

Work safe and teach a child the way that you would want to be taught.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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HeirloomWoodworking

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posted 53 days ago

Congrats to you Todd…Wow that is an incredible story! Like all the rest of the posters I am very envious. Oh to have that bandsaw, and the mortiser in my shop

The Lord is mysterious in his ways. I am sure that only future good will come from your aqusition of these tools. May he continue to bless you.

Like you…in my own home town, we used to have incredible visual, and performing arts programs, a vast woodworking program, and of course a strong Ag program. Over the last 10 years we have lost much of the substance of those programs…at one point we completely severed our Ag program, and we are in the heart of America, Nebraska…jeesh!

Thankfully, because of the sight and concern of caring local people, many those programs are now being rebuilt and re-implimented into the school system.

I can’t wait to see the upcoming posts of the projects that you create with your new equipment.

Keep up the good work
Trev

-- Trevor Premer Head Termite and Servant to the Queen - Heirloom Woodworking

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Woodwrecker

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posted 53 days ago

The Lord provides Todd !!!

Can’t wait to see pictures of your shop after you install this stuff.

Those are some AWESOME machines!

Is is criminal that so many school programs are being cut.

Pretty soon, there will be no where to learn woodworking except for sites like this.

Good luck & be careful.
(Don’t drop that monster band saw on you foot)!

-- Eric

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antmjr

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posted 53 days ago

While reading I stood open-mouthed; now I have some difficulties to close it :) Envy, envy, lots of envy from this side of the atlantic…:) :)

-- Antonio --

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Todd A. Clippinger

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posted 53 days ago

Man, I am so happy for you. Great score.

A project donated to a school fundraiser would get everyone’s attention by showcasing your talent and raising some money for them.

Have Fun!

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://amcraftsman.com

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sandhill

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posted 53 days ago

Is there a reason you got this gift? Think about it.

-- Sell it here> http://woodworkerslist.com

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michaelray

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posted 53 days ago

Ask and ye shall receive. God has blessed you for a purpose. Can’t wait to see what it is.

-- Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

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reggiek

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posted 53 days ago

The energy in this blog is contagious. What a great deal!...and it couldn’t happen in a better way and certainly not to a better person! I am glad that these tools have found a great home…and will be used to such a great manner. I look forward to the great projects you will be posting…

I do have to agree with Patron as I despair that the next generation will not get the benefits we had with arts, crafts and music. I don’t understand how we can hope to create well rounded citizens without any exposure to these integral parts that make us human. All I can say is that I am glad that I had the chance to experience these things…and that they were integral in instilling the enjoyment I now have for creating items with my own hands…. but that is not your fault…and if I was there I would have burnt the tires getting to the school faster….

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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Built2Last

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posted 53 days ago

OK,com’on now, you know we are all dying to know about what you paid for this treasure trove of wonderful stuff. I love to see someone who really appreicate’s it get something they need and really want and it’s even better when they get a good deal. I got a deal on a little lumber today at Home Depot I was going to post but this makes it seem trivial. But I did luck up and get what they called culls, it was 2 sheets of plywood and 20 something different boards. for a grand total of $11.99 including tax. It rang up for $239.06. The price I paid wouldn’t even cover the original tax. God put me in the right place and the right time today, I was supposed to have went yesterday but after much deliberation ( thats what I prefer to call it, LOL) I decided to want until today.
Again, I’m very proud for you and not the least bit (well, maybe a little ) jealous!!!
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- BUILT TO LAST WOODWORKS, West Blocton, Alabama

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Beginningwoodworker

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posted 53 days ago

Congrats Todd, on a nice gloat!

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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SCOTSMAN

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posted 53 days ago

Hey My dear friend you deserve like all here a good deal now and then.I am very happy for you, now take it easy and enjoy yourself.good luck and very kindest regards Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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Billp

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posted 53 days ago

I also am very happy for you, enjoy and stay safe.

-- Billp

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Loucarb

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posted 53 days ago

When you give you receive so you must of gave quite a bit. Congrats.

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Bob #2

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posted 53 days ago

Waht a good haul!
I am happy for you.
I’m not real good at this but right now I am praying you will move and end up being my next door neighbour! <g>

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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tinnman65

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posted 53 days ago

Your truly blessed Todd, It’s nice to see a fellow woodworker so richly rewarded but even better to see you know who to thank and are not afraid to do it! I must admit I am sorry to see another woodworking program lost but if it’s going anyway it might just as well be you that gets those tools. We should start praying for those programs to flourish as we know god answers prayers.

-- Paul Sayre Creativity is a drug I cannot live without. Cecil B. DeMille (1881 - 1959)

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vidkid26

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posted 53 days ago

I don’t mean to p in anybody’s cherios, but don’t you think God has more serious things to do these days than give people wood working equipment. Please don’t flame. Its just a thought from another believer.

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tooldad

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posted 53 days ago

Either I skimmed over it, or nobody’s asked or mentioned this. Most of my equipment in my school shop is 3-PHASE. Did you check the motor electrical requirements of these tools? That is usually a sign of good cheap tools, that they are 3 phase.

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cabinetmaster

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posted 53 days ago

WOW what a deal. Hope you enjoy them all. Great find.

-- Jerry--A man can never have enough tools or clamps

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ToddE

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posted 53 days ago

Todd had a great idea! I am going to build something and have it put in for a fund raiser. You know, there isn’t a lot of hope out there any more for our generation to hang our hat on, as far as the world goes! But I am so encouraged to hear all the encouragement here on this posting. I have had several people ask me, as vidkid26 has, why would I pray for myself and why would I pray for tools and isn’t God a little to busy to take care of my trivial needs like a tool, or even a sandwich. It’s evidence of trust and faith.
I love these questions, mostly because they are the easiest ones to answer. God says that He will provide for us richly. God also says that we are to be in relationship with Him. He isn’t some smug cop in the sky waiting to bop us on the heads every time we do something wrong. God loves me and loves all you guys on here. I don’t want to get into the whole prosperity gospel thing because I don’t believe that doctrine is correct. However, He makes it abundantly clear that He wants to bless His children. Maybe He is simply enabling me to bless someone else through this gift, I don’t know. But I will definitely do what I am asked to do. I threw in a couple sentences below to give some illustrations.

He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? For the LORD God is a sun and shield;the LORD bestows favor and honor. No good thing does he withhold from those who walk uprightly. And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened. You fathers, if your children ask for a fish, do you give them a snake instead? Or if they ask for an egg, do you give them a scorpion? Of course not! (Most importantly) So if you sinful people know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him?

Thanks again for all your kind words and I cant wait to turn up the heat on these things!

-- Do we do this for purpose or passion?

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ToddE

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posted 53 days ago

Tooldad,
None of the tools, except for the bandsaw were three phase if you can believe that! I already have a motor for it and just have to get to that machine and get it running. But very good point!

-- Do we do this for purpose or passion?

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vidkid26

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posted 52 days ago

First I would like to say that I do not question your faith. I have faith in God also. He blesses me abundantly and my prayers are prayers of thanks. My only point is that I don’t believe in praying for things. I don’t believe that just because I keep asking that I’ll receive. I believe that God answers the righteous prayers of the heart. My opinion(and mine only). Praying for a lathe doesn’t qualify. Did he answer the prayers of the teacher that is now unemployed and can’t feed his kids because he no longer has the equipment to teach his cabinet class ? There is always another side to the equation and people who believe that God guides and directs every aspect of their life, tend not to consider that.

Please know that it makes me happy to see your good fortune, and I cant wait to see what you do with your new toys !

This is not the forum to be espousing my views and I will not post further.
Vid

Apologies to any that I have offended.

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Built2Last

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posted 52 days ago

I was going to stay out of this as I can see both points but please don’t apologize for your belief in GOD and don’t worry if it offends anyone, that is what is wrong with this country now. I realize you probably meant that you apologize for something you said or for posting it here or something else, not for believing in GOD, just make it clear and let anyone think for even a split second that you are apologizing for your belief in GOD.
I won’t say anymore either. May GOD bless each and every one of US!!!!!

-- BUILT TO LAST WOODWORKS, West Blocton, Alabama

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Innovator

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posted 52 days ago

Todd congrats on the great score.

As for your belief, you were shown wonderful favor. Do I believe God has more important things to do than give you woodworking equipment, yes there are important works going on all the time does this mean that you were not blessed by that phone call, you were. It is amazing how He works.

-- Whether You Think You Can or You Think You Can't, YOU ARE RIGHT!!!

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EzJack

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posted 52 days ago

If God was around this one the kids would still have there shop.
I have only met a couple of folks who know God and they don’t pray for themselves. They are to busy helping the ignored.

-- Ain't better or worse than any other woodpecker in the woods.

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HarleySoftailDeuce

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posted 52 days ago

What a score!!!!! I’m standing on my tongue! I have a Powermatic 6” jointer, and boy, do they make great tools or what??
It’ll be great to see the stuff coming from you in the future.

-- Paul, Bristol,Rhode Island

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Rautenbach

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posted 52 days ago

Enjoy God’s blessing, and He is going to show you how to bless others, through your woodworking skills.
I look forward to seeing your projects.

-- Rautenbach,South Africa

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ToddE

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posted 51 days ago

And the beautiful thing about the internet…....I just finished downloading all the manuals for the machines. Cool. Thanks again to everyone that posted here and you are always welcome to visit and use these tools as many times as you want!

-- Do we do this for purpose or passion?

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BTKS

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posted 50 days ago

Probably said in the above posts but I can’t help myself. I’ve got room to help solve your problem of where to put everything. WOW, you were blessed. Have fun with the new toys. BTKS

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TheCaver

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posted 49 days ago

Hmm, glad to see that God came through for you….I read in the paper the other day where a woman was recounting a horrible gang rape where she prayed for God to help her…..Maybe he was busy helping someone with some tools….

Glad it worked out for you though….

JC

-- Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -Carl Sagan

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patron

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posted 49 days ago

J C , that sounds like a load of bull to me ,
do you decide that God only works the way you think ?
does HE ask your opinion before HE does something ?

i bet He can create the universe and give tools
to someone worthy , or give life as HE sees fit ,
without your opinion !

do you know the future ?
do you know the people that may be helped by this gesture ?

i think you are just jealous that you didn’t get them ,
and i think i understand why .

you are to full of your self .
there is no compassion or care for others in you .

did you invent life ?

get of your soapbox , you can join in the wonder of creation ,
or you can whine about your miserable life ,
if you don’t want to be part of the solution ,
them you are the problem !

i see you always making snide comments ,
but never offering help ,
not from the heart ,
just empty words that make you look smart .

from here , it looks like lost to me !

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

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ToddE

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posted 49 days ago

Hey Guys,
I didn’t really mean for this to turn into a huge debate or argument. I was just simply thanking God for what He did for me. I don’t believe we should not be meeting the needs of those who are in need. I believe that works without faith is dead. I also believe that God works all things to His glory.
So, lets just see this for what it is. I don’t think God was sitting there waiting for me to give him my grocery list of tools I want and waited there with my arms crossed, tapping my foot until He did what I said to. God is not in any box you would want to put Him in. I made a simple decision to trust in God’s provision instead of spending money that I felt wasn’t to be spent. When God blesses, it is a complete blessing, over the top! That’s the way He does it.

JC, the only thing that I would say is that there are bad things that happen to good people in this world and I don’t know why. Satan is the ruler of this world the last time I checked, if you haven’t found that to be true, turn on Fox or CNN and you will see that in about 5 seconds. But you have to understand that we aren’t given all the answers to every situation in life, that’s why it is called faith. As a police officer, I can tell you that sometimes people do a lot to control their own destiny and by their bad decisions, they place themselves in places they weren’t to be. She obviously didn’t die, so I think by your own statement God helped her. She was in a situation and God took her from it. We all make choices, I choose to accept God for what and who He is. You choose something else, that’s fine, you don’t owe anyone an explanation why you believe what you believe. That’s okay. I would invite you to send me your questions and I would do my best to answer them as honest and as open as I can.

Let’s get back to the woodworking.

-- Do we do this for purpose or passion?

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BlueStingrayBoots

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posted 48 days ago

Congrats amigo! Hey, i believe it was a miracle because…... we’ll, i just got blown away with what i got. nothing short of a miracle. But I’m a salesman also so, some of the stuff is in my ebay store.

If your right with Christ, shit happens. If you say your right with Christ but a blind as a bat hypocrit…. shit is all you’ll ever see…..

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TheCaver

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posted 48 days ago

Patron, let me start by addressing all of your capitalized HE’s and your opening questions about god waiting for my permission. HE does not exist! Therefore, the remaining questions are moot.

Now, I love how you bible thumpers immediately think that because someone doesn’t “know” god that something must be wrong in their life. Well bud, I got some news for you, that’s bullshit. I am an anti-theist plain and simple. I believe that religion or “a relationship with god” is dangerous and has held back humanity and caused too much suffering for far too long.

Wake up man, this guy actually believes that god took time from his presumably busy schedule of distributing second hand tools, making rain, and ignoring raped women to force a classroom full of kids to give up their equipment that he may have a bargain on some long wanted tools. Sweet! Prayer works! If you can’t see 1000 things wrong with this picture, there truly is no hope….

I’ll quote Emile Zola: Civilization will not attain perfection until the last stone from the last church falls on the last priest.

As for creation, pick up a book man….it’s called evolution! But I can agree with you that it’s wonderful….I just won’t do something short-sighted and attribute it to a man in the sky. The true story of the universe and our planet is far more interesting and complex than any creation myth….

-- Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -Carl Sagan

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Abbott

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posted 48 days ago

Congratulations Todd. I also see that you will not let a guy like TheCaver get you down, good for you. I feel sorry for folks like him.

-- Still clinging to my guns and religion.

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BlueStingrayBoots

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posted 48 days ago

little bit of tp wouldnt hurt…..lol

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stefang

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posted 48 days ago

I don’t want to say anything about this except that while this discussion is a very suitable subject for debate, it hasn’t got anything to do with woodworking. As I see it, we are here to share the things we have in common and not the things that divide us. There are many other forums for discussions like this, where there are very strong feelings on all sides. Please don’t let this website deteriorate into chaos. This is a great place to enjoy each others work and words. I enjoy this site so much and being able to have a positive dialog with other woodworkers from all over the world, that I would hate to have it ruined. I hope my comments haven’t offended anybody, because they are not meant to.

-- Mike, American in Norway

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ToddE

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posted 48 days ago

Stefang,
well put. Let’s leave our differences aside and get to woodworking. We aren’t going to change anyone’s opinions here, nor do I wish to. I was simply stating a fact and some do not agree.
So,
I got new 220 wiring in and hope to finish it off today when I get home from camp and get those babies running.

-- Do we do this for purpose or passion?

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TheCaver

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posted 48 days ago

I agree Mike….I wish everyone WOULD stick to the topic of woodworking…..But, as long as people keep bringing religion onto this site, I will continue to debate it…..

JC

-- Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -Carl Sagan

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BlueStingrayBoots

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posted 48 days ago

Thanks Stefang! Hey, I just milled two trunks of spalted live oak.

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EzJack

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posted 45 days ago

I talked to God the other day and told him that JC didn’t believe in him. He said sure he does he was just over. I said no I am talking about JC the LJ. He said oh that one,sure he believes in me. I said what and he said JC believes in treating each other with love, that is believing in me. I don’t have a big ego, he doesn’t have to build an alter or shape gold. I said but your JC died for us. He said junior, no no no, he died because of man sins not for them. He died for the idea of loving one and other, helping one and other. Man dwells in the mist of hate. Then I asked him what about heaven and hell? He said that is all up to you. I said I thought you judge? He said no that’s not my thing but when you die all there is is me and that would be truth. All there will be for you is what you have done, the joy,the hurt…then I woke up. I realized I gotta give up the LJ site, it’s freaking me out.

-- Ain't better or worse than any other woodpecker in the woods.

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