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Well, it’s not really that old, only about 7 or 8 years ago I built this with my brother, one for both of us. I only said it was old to see if I can get your attention. We used cedar for this and it really doesnt look good anymore. Every year you have to powerwash it and restain it and that’s too much trouble. I’ve seen alot of different styles of these chairs on this site and I would really like to build this one over again, but with what wood. I was hoping someone could tell me what would hold up outdoors better then cedar. Doesnt have to be the best, but better, remember I don’t like to spend alot of money on these projects. Even the screws are rusting. I know we used expensive carriage bolts, but I don’t remember what kind they were, but they’re rusting too. If anyone can give some advise I would appreciate it. Thanks.

-- Janice





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a1Jim

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#1 posted 09-03-2009 03:15 AM

Cedar should have held up. you can also use redwood, epi, White oak,cypress and stainless steel screws and bolts.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#2 posted 09-03-2009 03:22 AM

Jim, the Cedar is holding up, but it turns so grey. I think it looks ugly compared to the new ones I see on here. Just wondering how those are holding up too. I do have to say it does match my fence.

-- Janice

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#3 posted 09-03-2009 03:31 AM

Hey Janice
Have you tried deck cleaner on it? You just spray it on and let it set and rinse off .Just follow the directions on the container.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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janice

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#4 posted 09-03-2009 03:44 AM

No I havent, thanks. I’ll try that.

-- Janice

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#5 posted 09-03-2009 03:55 AM

For outdoor furniture, I’ve been considering trying ipe. I’ve read that when used as outdoor decking material it will last 50+ years with zero maintenance, or longer if you actually seal it. The downside to it is the fact that it is so dense, I’ve read it’s rough on tools. Also, that density makes it difficult to stain and seal, and it will slowly change color like the cedar in your pictures if left unsealed. Not bad, just different. Research shows ipe can be had for around $7-9/bf, so it doesn’t seem prohibitively expensive either, considering how long it lasts!

-- The difference between being defeated and admitting defeat is what makes all the difference in the world - Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle"

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#6 posted 09-03-2009 04:17 AM

Hey Janice
With cedar you have to spray spar (marine) varnish on it every couple of years for it to keep it’s color. I have some adirondack chairs that I built seventeen years ago and they are still holding up fine out of pressure treated. They have turned grey but still sturdy. I got a order yesterday for some ad chairs, footrest and end table and I’m building those out of treated lumber. As far as screws go, stainless are the best for expensive. I use a screw called Macro Brite 500. I think they are made in Wisconsin or somewhere up north. They are the next best thing to stainless. I’ve been using them for about 4 years now and I still have seen one rust. You can screw one within 1/2” of a treated 1 by 2” without pre-drilling and they won’t bust out. It’s about the best screw I have ever used. I find mine on ebay.
Whatever you use, unless maybe the new composite’s will turn grey over time. For the cost treated is hard to beat. I expecially like the new lighter colored. It takes stain or paint really well and doesn’t seem to crack and get check marks as bad as the old.

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#7 posted 09-03-2009 04:36 AM

No kidding, treated lumber? Well, that does weather too. We have a picinic table out of cedar at the river and it’s grey, but sturdy. My chair is still sturdy, it just doesnt look like anything I ‘ve seen on this site. But then again I guess mine looked pretty good too when it was new wood. I also wasnt sure you could paint or stain treated lumber. I know I read somewhere your really not suppose to make picnic tables, or swing sets out of treated lumber because of the chemicals and little kids touching and putting their hands in their mouths. But then again, they say all kinds of things now days when it comes to kids. I know I lived this long. Thanks for the advise.

-- Janice

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#8 posted 09-03-2009 04:41 AM

I’ve never heard of ipe? But I’ll check into it. Thanks.

-- Janice

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Built2Last

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#9 posted 09-03-2009 04:49 AM

The part about using around kids was the old treated lumber. That’s the reason they made them start using this new stuff. It’s safe for picnic tables, kid’s swingsets, etc.

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janice

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#10 posted 09-03-2009 04:57 AM

I didnt know there was new stuff. My husband uses treated lumber all the time especially at the river. But it’s usually for construction, boat docks, steps to the river that sort of stuff, not furniture. Thanks, now I know. Learn something everyday, this was it.

-- Janice

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#11 posted 09-03-2009 05:01 AM

I do have to say, I do like the style of this one. A friend of ours brought his moms whole set out to the river to burn. He loves fires. He said it was about 20 years old and rotten. Me and my brother grabbed the seatee and wouldnt let him burn it. We took it home and took it apart and drew our pattern from that. Then my brother slapped it back together with a few new boards and gave it to the girl that was having the fire. She painted it and it’s still there.

-- Janice

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janice

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#12 posted 09-03-2009 05:52 AM

My husband just informed about the new stuff. Like I said, he uses it, I don’t. Should have asked him about it.

-- Janice

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#13 posted 09-03-2009 12:43 PM

Cypress is another very good outdoor wood if you have access to it.

-- Paul, Bristol,Rhode Island

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#14 posted 09-03-2009 04:44 PM

Hi Janice! Try teak…It’s expensive but the best. I’ve recently posted a settee that is a combo of Southern Yellow Pine and Cyprus. I used a quality deck stain on the pine, so it should hold up. I do have a picnic table that has set outdoors for like 15+ years and is still lookin’ new…it was made from 100% pressure treated pine and quality deck stain. Your hardware (screws and bolts) should all be stainless steel. There are a lot of different type deck screws available today…all look good for lasting qualities. Countersink them and plug the holes…no rust. Don’t use galvanized though as it gives some woods (oak,cedar) a black stain. Good luck and be sure to keep us in the loop!

-- Bob Vila would be so proud of you!

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#15 posted 09-03-2009 04:50 PM

I used Ipe (aka Brazilian Walnut, pronounced “epay”) that I got from a flooring place to build a project. It was relatively cheap. It’s kind of unpleasant to work with, but it’s bullet-proof. I use stainless steel hardware and 3M 5200 adhesive from West Marine for outdoor projects. I really like your design. BTW, I’m also from St. Louis! Imo’s, Rigazzi’s, Cunetto’s, Ted Drewe’s – Yummm…

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