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Project by Rob Drown posted 07-20-2009 06:54 PM 2643 views 2 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I refurbished three planes, a Stanley Bailey #7 jointer, Stanley Bailey #6 scrub and a new Arnet shoulder plane. On the #7, I flattened the sole, gave it a thorough cleaning and put in a Hock HS blade. Hock blades are thicker and harder than the original and take me a while to sharpen but no chatter and the blade stays sharp. After flattening the sole, the #6 got a radiused Hock blade (10” R @ 25 deg bevel). Wow does it hog off wood. Talk about an upper body work out. The Arnet was fairly flat out of the box. The blade depth adjustment is sloppy and I thightened it as best I could but there is too much clearance for a new plane. The blade is much softer than the Hock and wasn’t cut square. This new plane took more work to make it usefull than the two ebayers. The shavings tell the story. The jointer was able to get down to right at thou at the whispy edge. Wow is it fun to make planes work well.

The blades are protected with a piece of magnetic plastic from the local pizza joint so it is ok to sit the blades on the marble.

If you order a blade directly from Hock blades, The three times I have called, I have talked directly to Ron Hock. He knows blades, steel and is a pleasure to work with. He custom cut the radiused blade and chip breaker for the scrub plane for just a little extra. He is the best!! His blades are flat but you still have to remove some machining marks. Hock = Hard so allow some honing time.

-- The expectations of life depend upon diligence; the mechanic that would perfect his work must first sharpen his tools. Confucius, 经过艰苦的努力的梦想可以成真





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#1 posted 07-20-2009 07:09 PM

Very nicely done !!!!

-- Don S.E. OK

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#2 posted 07-20-2009 07:12 PM

Great looking planes, I’m a big fan of Hock blades as well, I recently used two blade on some home made planes ,two smoother and I very impress with the shaving and lack of chatter. I order a 1’ 1/2 for a block plane which is in the works. Lee Valley has free shipping until the 19th or I would of order direct from Ron Hock himself. Enjoy your new tools and shave on!!!Blkcherry

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#3 posted 07-20-2009 07:47 PM

Hi Rob;

I see you are plane nuts too. Nice shavings.

Nice to talk to the owner and feel as though you’re dealing with the best, huh.

Great job Rob.

Lee

-- by Lee A. Jesberger http://www.prowoodworkingtips.com http://www.ezee-feed.com

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Craftsman on the lake

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#4 posted 07-21-2009 12:28 AM

Nothing more satisfying that that first curl from a plane you refurbished, sharpened, and set up yourself. It’s sort of like fishing. You cast and cast knowing that any fish in the area would have been interested by now but you keep casting anyway just because it’s satisfying. I’ve taken down the edge of a board for 15 minutes just being satisfied with a newly refurbed plane.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#5 posted 07-21-2009 01:10 AM

Rob, good job done.
You will get a lifetime of use from those planes andwith the Hock blades you are definitley in the zone where the big fish like to play.
Don’t quote me but a fella once told me that a decent plane is nothing more than a holder for a good blade..

<vbg>

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#6 posted 07-21-2009 09:45 AM

Very nice work Rob. Great shavings

-- Garysharp "When sharpening woodworking tools, good enough,...isn't" “Your life’s complete only when your knowledge passes on”.

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#7 posted 07-21-2009 10:14 AM

I’ve got a couple to start on. What was the hardest part? Anything I should watch out for or might easily overlook?

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#8 posted 07-21-2009 05:12 PM

It’s a great feeling when they actually work—-huh? Good job!

Easy to get hooked

-- She thought I hung the moon--now she just thinks I did it wrong

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#9 posted 07-22-2009 01:09 AM

Hey Top,

I’m no expert. These are among the first ones that I’ve done on my own. A friend, Gary Foster (garysharp) teaches a class through our woodworking club on how to tune up a hand plane. There are a bunch of articles and books about how to tune up a hand plane. When a plane is adjusted properly and has a really sharp blade, it is a JOY to use.

Ck out http://www.handymanclub.com/Projects/Project.aspx?id=26914
or
https://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/ProjectsAndDesign/ProjectsAndDesignPDF.aspx?id=2933

What kind of plane do you have? (Size, brand, type). What condition is it in?

-- The expectations of life depend upon diligence; the mechanic that would perfect his work must first sharpen his tools. Confucius, 经过艰苦的努力的梦想可以成真

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#10 posted 07-22-2009 02:44 AM

Well done

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#11 posted 07-22-2009 06:29 AM

Thanks for the links, I’ve seen a few video’s on the web and I’ve been paying attention here on LJ. Thought you might have a really HOT tip!! :-)) I have a Stanley #7 that is in pretty good shap. Shouldn’t take too much to get it up to snuff. Then there is a fair Stanley #5 with a loose tote and a rusty screw broken off in the casting :-(( That will be a bit of fun!! Another Miller Falls that is about a Stanley #4 size but a bit better condition. A couple of block planes that need to be sharpened. I’ve never used them for really fine wood working. Hope to get there though. :-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#12 posted 07-22-2009 07:02 AM

Start by really sharpening the blades. Flatten and polish the backs of the blades, then sharpen the bevel, next flatten the sole. Nothing magical, time effort & keep everything flat. Find someone who is good at sharpening and copy his/her technique. I use a 220 diamond stone 3m sharpening film in 60u, 30u then 800 water stone, 6K water stone and a 12k water stone. I flatten the stones about every 50 strokes. It helps to be really anal.
Make sure the chip breaker meets the blade in a sharp line. If there is any gap between the two the shavings will jam up into a really ugly little folded clog. not pretty.

don’t give up. It ain’t easy. But plaining is so cool.

-- The expectations of life depend upon diligence; the mechanic that would perfect his work must first sharpen his tools. Confucius, 经过艰苦的努力的梦想可以成真

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#13 posted 07-22-2009 07:38 AM

Sounds like a gap on the chip breaker is going to be like a bird’s nest in a bait casting reel :-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#14 posted 01-01-2010 06:27 AM

Great looking set of plains. I picked up my #5 and #7 from ebay as well. Great old planes.

-- Dave, See some of my creations at: http://www.etsy.com/shop/76Winger

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#15 posted 01-01-2010 08:01 PM

Very nice looking planes, great work.

-- Garysharp "When sharpening woodworking tools, good enough,...isn't" “Your life’s complete only when your knowledge passes on”.

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