TV Stand

Very nice corner cabinet

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

This is cool! Carvers amaze me!

-- "That Government is Best that Governs The Least."-Jefferson

Carvers amaze me too, machines don’t. Nice work though

-- ~ Inspiring those who inspire me ~

we have to remember that if it wasn’t for machines a smaller segment of the population would have the benefit of having something nice in their house. I use to carve this type stuff by hand and would have charged 10 times the price for it. I still do some hand carving but most customers cant, or wont pay the price.

Erik

-- Erik

Actually, if it wasn’t for machines people would recognize talent and respect it and be willing to compromise and pay for it, instead of knowing they can get something machine carved for 1/3rd the price. Having machines makes skill irrelavent, and people don’t actually care about the product anymore.
Not having machines would force people to actually have some sort of skill or talent, as the demand for such would be higher. Maybe half the people with skill wouldn’t be unemployed if a machine wasn’t doing their job.
We no longer need woodworking class, we need programming class.
I like your product, I’m not impressed with the production. I’m not out to start a battle. Everyone has a different view point on technology. I believe in labor, most believe in production. Production = machine, labor = man power. I’m lucky enough to be able to do the work with my hands, and share it with the technology, instead of doing the work with technology and sharing it with technology. I don’t want to be obsolete.

I’m in no way trying to take anything away from you. It’s still a project and it looks good. As long as people don’t get the wrong impression as to how it came about.

-- ~ Inspiring those who inspire me ~

Hi Erik

Very nice looking cabinet. That is quite the machine you have there. Thanks for posting.

God Bless
tom

-- Mc Bridge Cabinets, Iowa

Beautiful tv stand. Looks like a lot of work for that purpose but what the heck.

-- Mike. mwurm13@yahoo.com

The same could be said of your table saw, planer, router, rotary tool or anything else that is plugged in to the wall… You always cut dovetails by hand, never use any jigs or fixtures to make repetitive cuts? I would say to anyone who cannot tell the difference between something that is machine vs hand carved – yeah, it is irreleveant, and you might as well buy the cheap one. To each their own. I see your argument similar to an artist telling a photogapher he doesn’t have any skills – and we should do away with cameras so that artists have more work.

-- A thing of beauty is a joy forever...

The same can’t be said jm82435. That’s just ridiculous. It’s the man running the table saw, router, rotary tool, etc which means there is room for human error, and the person has to have skill to guide the material or equipment. Even properly aligning things, set up, etc. However, if you place a board on a machine and press start, then walk away the machine is responsible for the skill, errors, etc.
A photographer isn’t in the same realm as this topic. The camera itself needs the skill of a person for focusing, etc. It’s very difficult to take professional pictures. An artist using paints is differant then a photographer by miles, and is two different arts. You have no argument. In the end, you don’t need skill for CNC, just a computer, software, and a machine. Maybe design skills.
Everyone sees this in a different light.

-- ~ Inspiring those who inspire me ~

Sorry to hijack this thread cnccutter. This is a cool project and keep up the good work. What kind of CNC are you using?

-- A thing of beauty is a joy forever...

I’m Sorry but i’m with Kieth(kolwdwrkr) the one thing i started woodwork for is the skills i have learned and still learning i was taught cnc at collage but would never consider using it.
Its not the fact of knowing that a machine did the work but how can you smell the wood when you first cut in to it or honing your woodworking skills or the fact that when you make a mistake you use all the skills that you have taken years to accumulate to correct the mistake and the inperfections you make along the build thats why i would never consider using a machine for anything in my shop or my woodworking career

IT’S LIKE PUTTING A TV DINER IN THE MICROWAVE OVEN AND SAY I MADE THAT WITH MY OWN HANDS

Andy

-- cut it saw it scrap it

Nice job, cnccutter!

I have a CNC machine too and, although ‘man’ vs ‘machine’ argument will continue to rage on, I appreciate the kind of skill it take to operate a machine. You also have to be creative enough to design things that people like looking at. I let everyone know it’s CNC cut because I’m proud of the fact that I designed it, then programmed it, then set the machine up properly for a nice end result. Also because I’m a programmer by trade and this lets me enjoy two of my favorite hobbies at the same time.

Sometimes I wish it were as simple at putting in a piece of wood on the table and pressing a button.

What kind of machine are you running, by the way? Shoot me a line.

-- Matt - My Websites - http://www.bestinwood.com - Hand Tools :: http://www.workshopgarage.com - Small Shops

matt I run a 48 X 96 Warthog, with a 10hp vac table.

in general this debate is getting really silly. I get the feeling that some of the posters are trying to say I mislead everyone when I said I had a tv stand with carving. I have never tried to hide the face that I run cnc…. for gosh sake my screen name in cnccutter…. that alone should wring a bell… HA! I’m of the mind that the cnc machine i have is nothing more or less than any other tool I have. it does a job…. sometimes fast…. sometimes slow…. at the start and end of the day it is nothing more than a bucket of bolts and cant do anything unless I tell it how to. some are trying to say that you just push a button and get a finished project… thats nuts… I still have to put things together and do all the same fitting and finishing steps that someone with a table saw does. the project will still have my personality embodied in it from my touch. To top it off I’m also classically trained in fine furniture making… I’ll stand toe to toe with anyone with a plane and a chisel. i guess all I’m trying to say is I love to work wood…. any way I need too… any way I can…. and not from inside some self imposed box.

forget the talking and go make some sawdust.

Erik

-- Erik

None the less it took a craftsman on some level to put this thing together. Great piece of work!

Interesting debate. Whenever technology jumps forward, this always comes up.

For example, I was so “old school” for so long with my camera. I refused to go digital, for fear I would lose the art of it. But then I was convinced to try. You simply have to seek out new ways to craft your craft with the new technology.

By the way, beautiful horses :)