heres to you moshel

Hey David
Another project proving you great expertize an creative nature and of course beautiful work.
Thanks so much Bud

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

looks like you are having some fun now too my friend,

great of you to explain your methods, thanks for sharing with all of us, as you always do
take care

-- James, Bluffton, IN

where did you learn such great designs? are you self taught?

i learned construction in prison,
for smoking pot ,
i was framed ,and like bill , i never inhaled ?
( they were’nt giving it away , i had to fight for it ! )
all of my shop skills are self taught ,
as are my boatbuilding skills.
the art comes from creator ,
so i pay atention to it ,
as it is a gift .
that is why i can share it .
the more i give and help others ,
the more i get to learn !

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

Hi David,

That’s great looking ones, thanks for sharing with us,and i agree with you
the more i give and help others ,
the more i get to learn !
i am now building new house, i may need your briliant idea,

Cheers,

Rosewood.

-- http://picasaweb.google.com/deniirawan66

Smoking POT?! Oh, My God! Doesn’t that lead to Maniacal Laughter and people jumping out of windows? Or those terrible scourges of society: #1) Frisbee Tossing and #2) The Munchies? There must be a really, really lot of Road Rage incidents caused by smoking Grass too, you know how hepped up those people can be…(if anything, they’d be driving too slowly LOL)
I like the pattern! Going to have to salt that one away for future consideration! Thanks, David!!

-- Mike in Manchester, NH---Unpleasant tasks are simply worthy challenges to improve skills.

David fantastic.. you are truly gifted.. so simple yet so special.
I love it. I will have to make one tomorrow,..,
you’re the best .

-- Drink once, cut twice. New website up.... lazylarrywoodworks.com.au

Attention LumberJocks:

If you don’t pay attention and follow the exquisite posts of David Patron you are seriously short-changing yourself.

Wonderful gift! When I grow up I want to be just like you! Opps, too late! lol
Thanks for sharing!

-- spanky46 -- Never enough clamps...Never enough tools...Never enough time.

That is very slick. Thanks for posting this and making a complex design look possible for folks like me.

-- When you give someone a chance it may well be their last.

Thanks for sharing your skills David…....really appreciated.

-- I will just keep doing it till I get it right.

Thanks David! this will be used heavily, as I really like these shapes. the jig is much simpler than I expected. I will have to postpone building this jig till I finish building the shrine in your honor :-)

about epoxy, i really hardly worked with it. if you don’t drag the pieces, how do you get glue between the pieces? do you use slow epoxy? i guess a 5 min one is really out of the question :-)

you used microwave is one of the posts. was it to speed curing of epoxy or white glue?

again, thank you for all the knowledge. reading your posts make me always itch to run to the shop. and thats a wonderful feeling.

-- The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but I have promises to keep...

its also amazing that you get such contrast from just flipping the pieces. it looks like another kind of wood.

-- The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but I have promises to keep...

good morning , guys .
i just had my first sip of coffee , and can now focus on this to reply .
moshel : im glad you like it ! i have found that you want to have a sharp blade , as any wobble can really mess with
this alot over distance ! i some times start my inlays in the middle and work out to edges , as this 1/2’s the error
overall . i have made variuos inlays with glue in betwenn the pieces and without , and prefer the not glued edges myself , as i find that getting the glue evenly in all the edges is time consuming and messy . remember , that i usualy make my inlay work glued to ply or box top , not to itself .as in the doors in picks , they are a 3/4” ply in the frame of door so i get a 1/2” inset on either side of door . i have made many of them (with this and other designs ) and dry cut and assemble the parts to fit this cavity .when i get anjious whith the glue up , i have had the inlay increas in length by 1/4 ” over all with the glue in between , and scrambleing to cut parts with glue all over them !
if you make this like cutting boards , than by all means use glue in bettween !

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

and I am going to sleep soon :-) its a small world…
another question: all your bandsaw jigs looks like they are made so effortlessly. when I make a bandsaw jig i find that attaching it to the table is really a pain. either i use clamps (which always get in the way or loosen in the wrong time) or is use some elaborate thingie below the table to clamps it. whats your secret?

-- The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but I have promises to keep...

the best is to make a base that is larger than b.s. table and put permanent stops to it , and a slot for blade , ( be generous here , as the slot gets filled with sawdust and makes it hard to get off ) . i have also drilled holes in table at corners , to put screws threw it . you can make a slider with a pivot that moves for different radiuses

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

Thanks for sharing David, i like your pot story also

-- Occie down in Costa Rica. come down and see us some time. I'll keep the light on for you Occiegilliam@yahoo.com

rosewood :i will get new swim trunks today , and will be there as soon as i can swim to java ! how about we all come there and help with the house ? i love the pics of your family ,and your comunity , bless you all !
littlecope : you can be in charge of the bbq for this get together ! ( just let the ausies help , they did invent it ) .
degoose : well , brother it’s working !
pineintheash : i am honored , thank you !
spanky : you already just like me , why do you comb your hair differently ?
russel : im the lazyest carpenter i know , thats why i seek simple solutions ! thinking just complicates things .
splinterman : we need to work together , thats how to help this world !
occie : i lived in puntarenas for 2 years ,my wife from there bygamied me with the son of the oil minister of iran ,
then called me up to tell me she had my baby !

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

Patron: a great jib for making patterns. Nice job.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

David,
With the others, I am very thankful for your tips.
You surely have some great skills and to share them with us is very nice of you.
I plan to use some of your cool techniques after practicing them a little.
Thank you very much.
A guy would be crazy not to add you to his buddy list and watch for your posts.
A lot can be learned from a craftsman like you.
(And, I’m with Mike in Manchester; thank goodness the dreaded “Reefer Madness” didn’t get you.) lol.

Thank again

-- Eric

thank you for posting this i will have to try a cutting board in this design
again thank you, you and Larry are changing the way i view things
in a good way

very cool design!

wow. that’s it, wow.

-- jack -- measure once, curse twice!

You’re a nice guy patron and your work is so cool.Wow this jig is so simple and works great too. I would have thought this would have taken a much more complicated jig than that.I agree with you, you are correct too many of us are artists .I consider myself an artist first then a woodworker second I make art from anything which inspires me well done Patron .Keep em coming Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

karson : thank you for the compliment , it means allot coming from you , with your experience !
eric : years ago , i learned that nobody wanted my job , so im impresed with you that you want to learn more ,
thank you !
eddy : the sky is the limit , and then beyond !
Mike : they are all your now , enjoy !
jack : i like your laid back style , and am honored that you approve !
allistair :unfortunately we are just labor , in the eyes of so many . what they don’t see , is the dedication and sacrifice
it takes to stick with this .
they also don’t see the joy it gives us in return !

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

Thank you for this post. I finally understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Something new to try out on my unsuspecting family and friends. Thanks again David for expanding my wood working knowledge. You and Larry are great

Rick

-- If at first you don't succeed...Don't try skydiving

Hello friend,

I’m getting still surprised by you, this is a beautiful piece off creativitie.
Even in very difficult times you make something beautiful.
I can learn a lot off you.

See you, Henrie.

-- Greetings from the Netherlands.

bower : glad you got it ! we aim to please , and when we do , it brings joy to all .
schummie : i am getting surprised by life still ! but hardship is no excuse to stop learning !
.
and again , thank you all for the interest .
i liked the idea that i think karson had , to have a way to show all the works that come from this shareing together.
someone shows a piece , and all the projects that come from it/others are put together to show how it has been
used/expanded upon ?

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

I also think its a great idea. to have a link back to the inspiring project! and have the site present all the projects inspired by a project automatically. shouldn’t be too hard (I just love saying it when someone else got to do the programming)

I have started building this jig today, made some mistakes with the positioning and bigger mistakes in other parts. will re-build it tomorrow properly…. and post my mistakes so others can learn from them

-- The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but I have promises to keep...

moshel : thats the spirit !
i’ve got a ton of jigs that didn’t perform ,
but they led the way to one that did .
that is why we try them out on scrap first .
in answer to your question about the microwave ,
i tried it to kick the white glue ,
it did work ,but the moisture it created also steamed the wood ?
it was just my impatience to get that blog out .
and i don’t really have one big enough to get a dining set into !

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

i did quite a lot of experiments with microwave and drying wood (there is a system for drying wood in a microwave so it will not check. i used it for making live edge coasters). the secret is to stop the microwave the minute the bag STARTS to inflate, get the things out, wipe the bag with a paper towel, wait for the wood to cool a bit and repeat. not sure it will work well on all kind of PVA glues. I think some of them (cross linked?) require a more complex reaction than just removing the moisture. I will get some epoxy and start experimenting – i think it can even work in the temperatures we have now! I have started using poly glue (gorilla). this is so messy….

-- The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but I have promises to keep...

i use system 3 from woodworkers supply ,it’s a2 to 1 mix .
it gives me some positioning and adjustment time .
i use a notched trowel with 1/16 ” groves to spread it , as that leaves a flat surface .
i have also used west epoxy from gudjeon brothers .
you can probably find these glues from boatbuilding suplys in n.z. .

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

yes, system 3 is here (in NZ almost every second person has a boat in some stage of construction in his yard).
we also have some local ones (nuplex r180). i’ll get a liter of this and see how it goes (its a 5:1 system, so i guess harder to measure)

-- The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but I have promises to keep...

watch the styrofoam cup used as a mix container ,
the can melt with the heat !
a slick plastic one is o.k. leave the exess to cure ,
and remove the glue in one piece to reuse the container.
i have also used hot coffee picnic cups for this ,
and just throw away after use .
having worked with fiberglass allot ,
the amount of hardener is mostly just about the time to cure ,
and is not that critical over all ,
i use plastic spoons one each to measure the ratio,
that way you can mix a little or allot in one batch.
but the more you mix the faster the glue sitting in the cup heats up and can start to kick fast ,
so you want tospread it out quikly ,then you have time to work with it .
or just mix and work a little at a time , as you need it .

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

One of my “secret” resources are dollar stores. If you put your woodworkier’s thinking cap on it’s amazing the values that can be had.

A dozen one-time use thick plastic cups used for mixing, 100 shrink-wrapped wood “craft” sticks.

never been to one ,
but sounds like its time to check them out .
thanks for the tip .

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

A truly unique door. Great craftmanship and creativity, i’m impressed.

-- -Jon

Wow. I’ve never seen this technique before, and I am really impressed. Beautiful work!

-- -- Jim E., Oswego, NY. Create, have fun, and work safely!

Thank you David for sharing and thank you Larry for leading me to this post : )

-- You know you're getting old when you know the difference between you're (you are) and your (belonging to you) AND how to use them in a sentence .

David, when I see your work and method it makes me want to be 20 years younger so I would have time to try out all of the beautiful work you have shown us. You make it all seem so do-able. I will however, try to adapt some of your very creative ideas to my new segmented turning mania. I really love your designs and the intelligent way in which you create them. Simple, effective and accurate jigs. Your work has really added a new dimension to my woodworking sensibilities. Thanks for sharing your wealth of experience and know-how with us.

-- Mike, American in Norway

David!

Thank you!

The LIGHT finally shined through!

What was the Width of your strips and the distance from Pivot to Stop in this example?

You’re sure good!

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

Inspirational

-- Ain't better or worse than any other woodpecker in the woods.