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Wood Sign For Boat Yard

Project by Talyn posted 161 days ago 621 views 0 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I glued 4 pieces of 2”x 10”x 8’ pressure treated lumber together, designed the boat wheel in Rhino CAD and set the wood up in the CNC to carve and cut out. The Sign is 6 feet x 3 feet. It’s the first Sign I made for a paying customer. I had one problem the next day, the wood started curling up on me; so I screwed 3 boards in the back to stop it from curling anymore. Can anyone tell me why that happened and how to stop it or prevent it from happening the next time?

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TopamaxSurvivor

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posted 161 days ago

Nice programing :-)) Did you pay attention to the growth ring pattern and alternate them? That should help keep it flat. Can’t remeber the proper term for that right now ;-((

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degoose

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posted 161 days ago

By carving out the front with the CNC you have changed the dynamics of the surface of the wood .,, ie different to the back thereby allowing the timber to dry out at different rates front to back.. ergo cupping.
as to a solution .. sealing both front and back will equalize moisture retention and evaporation.., ergo less change in surface moisture .. this should help.. also the temperature has an effect on the rate of change.. If the board was laid down on a cold surface it will warp also..timber is a living thing and will change . cleats on the back as you have done will also be of help.
Hope I have Given you something to think about!

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stefang

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posted 161 days ago

Everything Larry said above is correct. Also you should be aware that pressure treated wood is not usually of the same quality as non-treated wood. I have been told that the fastest growing wood is preferred for pressure treating with more growth wood between the rings to facilitate penetration. PT wood purchased here in Norway is normally stored outside to keep it moist, as it shrivels up pretty fast in dry place. We have a lot of rain here. In dryer climates they would probably have to store it indoors to keep it moist.

-- Mike, American in Norway

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DaveR

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posted 161 days ago

Nice sign. I bet they’ll like it.

Pressure treated lumber around here is nortorious for being very wet inside. As DeGoose said, by removing the face as you did, you ended up with a relatively damp face (front) and a not so damp surface (back). Cupping would be expected then. If you didn’t alternate the annular rings as TS suggested, the thing would tend to curl up because the boards would all cup in the same direction.

Did you end up cutting through the treated part of the lumber?

Keep up the good work.

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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jockmike2

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posted 161 days ago

Nice looking sign. The cleats on the back should do the trick.

-- Mike. mwurm13@yahoo.com

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Talyn

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posted 161 days ago

Thanks for the advice. I did alternate the boards, I also let the boards dry out for a month before gluing them together. But every thing Degoose said, I did wrong. I did not seal it after carving & I left the boards laying on a cold table over night. Live and learn! Thanks All!!

-- Never Give Up, Never Surrender, www.cncdesignwork.com

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George Barreras

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posted 161 days ago

Nice job on the sign. What kind of CNC are you using. I have been contemplating purchasing one to add diversity to my wood working.

-- Nubs,Reserve

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a1Jim

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posted 161 days ago

nice looking sign

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

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cajunpen

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posted 161 days ago

Great looking sign. Having a “wanna be” CNC machine (Carvewright) I can appreciate the talent it took to design the carving in your software – Great job! The sign looks really nice – I think that in the future I would refrain from using PT wood for your signs, perhaps Cypress, or Redwood would be better choices for outdoor signs. I don’t know for sure, but I suspect that all of the chemicals used in PT wood would be dangerous when you consider the amount of dust created by carving that much out – also, wonder what the long term effect will be on your CNC machine (from the chemicals). Don’t know for sure – just throwing out some “food for thought”.

-- Bill - "Suit yourself and let the rest be pleased." http://www.cajunpen.com/

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SCOTSMAN

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posted 160 days ago

That’s a sweet looking sign well done it’s really eye catching.regards Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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Talyn

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posted 160 days ago

Hi George,

The CNC machine I have, is from a company called K2 CNC. This is a link to the one I have without the vacuum table: http://www.k2cnc.com/shop/proddetail.asp?prod=KG%2D9850%2DR&cat=18

-- Never Give Up, Never Surrender, www.cncdesignwork.com

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Grandpaw

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posted 158 days ago

That looks great! Do you plan on staining it? I have the CarveWright myself and I’ve done similar signs – I’d be interested to see how long it took on your machine and what sort of cleanup you had to do. also what kind of wood did ya use?

-rick

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