LumberJocks
DAILY DEALS 3-Row Ball Bearing Stand  |  Makita Makita Recon LCT203W 10.8 Volt Lithium Ion Impact Driver 2 Pc Kit

"Bad Moon Rising" Secret Box

Project by Andy posted 161 days ago 1955 views 54 times favorited 46 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Just another box….BUT with a twist! This box looks like any other,you pick it up and open the lid like usual.But give the handle a tug and the center panel ( medallion)pops up and a tray pulls down by the hanging ribbon.
The handle fits perfectly snug against the edge of the lid,there are no pins or screws,and the medallion fits nicely.All of which means that there is no give-away to the fact that the center panel lifts up.
This box was designed for the last contest we had but I didnt finish it in time. I missed it by 3 hours.haha Oh well…if it hadnt been for the contest this box would never have been designed.
I wanted to enter this box in that contest which would incorporate both the Knot and the Secret elements in one project.

The KNOT:
The knot was just a matter of finding one that lended itself to the scene without being too obvious.This piece of Myrtle Wood was selected because it made me think of a moon rising over the desert,or a storm blowing across a barren planet,but thats just my over active imagination.

The SECRET:
This is what I came up with after a lot of thought,but wasnt sure if it could be done.But I had to try.
How was I going to make a lid and tray fit within a 3/4’’ thick lid,and conceal the opening and closing device from every angle? It had to be a secret after all,no tell tales to give it away.
So I made a full size prototype box out of pine and started laying out the hinges,trays,etc in the lid and knew it could be done if I was very very careful. Part of the problem is allowing for wood expansion and only removing enough wood on the lids so all the joints still appear to be tight. How its done: I made one of my miter corner boxes 11’’ w x 7’’ d x 3.5’’ h I routed out a 5/8 recess around the top of the box edge to recieve the lid which is 3/4’‘ I routed out a 5/8 recess in the lid to recieve the medallion which is 3/4’‘ On the backside of the medallion I routed out a 1/2 recess for the tray The tray is 1/2’’ thick and I routed a 7/16’’ recess I used Soss 10mm barrel hinges for both the lid and tray
  • The tray hinges on brass pins in the side.
    Because the top of the lid is so thin (1/8),I had to carefully shape the top to a soft pillow shape.That was nerve wracking :) The Mechanics:
    To access the tray under the medallion,you gently pull outwards on the handle.
    The handle has two 1/8’’ brass alignment pins to guide it in and out and they also act as the hold down for the pop up lid.
    The pop up mechanism is two opposing super magnets.
    Maple,Myrtlewood,Bloodwood
    I am out of room here,so will post more below.

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon


46 comments so far

View CharlieM1958's profile

CharlieM1958

7599 posts in 1110 days


posted 161 days ago

Beautiful!!!!!

I wish you had finished in time for the contest. It would be nice if GaryK had some competition now and then. :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

View majeagle1's profile

majeagle1

425 posts in 388 days


posted 161 days ago

Wow Andy, you are just full of these little “bags of tricks” !!!!
What a super neat design and idea, I love it!!!!

Beautiful work as usual and am very patiently waiting for your tutorial.

thanks again so much for taking the time to put it together

-- Gene, Majestic Eagle Woodworks, http://majesticeagleww.etsy.com/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/majesticeagle/

View Ben Kahmann's profile

Ben Kahmann

232 posts in 164 days


posted 161 days ago

That is absolute GENIUS! Very clever, wish you had a video. I would like to see it in action…......

-- Ben Kahmann Dayton, OH

View YorkshireStewart's profile

YorkshireStewart

782 posts in 793 days


posted 161 days ago

Hello Andy. That is delicious! Beautifully worked out, designed and crafted. It’s got my vote!!

-- Res severa verum gaudium - True pleasure is a serious business. http://www.folksy.com/shops/TreeGems

View Ampeater's profile

Ampeater

200 posts in 639 days


posted 161 days ago

That is one cool design.

-- "A goal without a plan is a wish."

View Allens's profile

Allens

11 posts in 495 days


posted 161 days ago

Wow! Awesome! Very beautiful, but I must admit I am predigest for just the fact that it is a secret box. The best secret is the one you don’t know that is there. This box has my all time favorite one you have made so far.

-- Paul & Kathy Allen

View Triman's profile

Triman

26 posts in 474 days


posted 161 days ago

Using opposing magnets to open the compartment….genius!!!!

-- Bruce, San Jose, Ca www.spotofwood.com

View Jim's profile

Jim

51 posts in 969 days


posted 161 days ago

‘Just another box’... yeah right! Thanks for sharing the details of your building with us. Beautiful piece of work!

-- Jim, www.greenteawoodworking.com

View stefang's profile

stefang

1638 posts in 226 days


posted 161 days ago

A real WOW box that has everything and more! Great design, beautiful woods, extremely interesting features and last but not least, flawless workmanship. You did yourself proud Andy.

-- Mike, American in Norway

View Christopher's profile

Christopher

563 posts in 812 days


posted 161 days ago

This is ingenious!

-- "That Government is Best that Governs The Least."-Jefferson

View bamasawduster's profile

bamasawduster

276 posts in 486 days


posted 161 days ago

Wow, what a box. Did you know there’s a seal peering out of the top? In the first picture, it looks as if it’s looking to the right.

-- Gary, Huntsville. May you live as long as you want and not want as long as you live.

View scrappy's profile (online now)

scrappy

1579 posts in 322 days


posted 161 days ago

Beautifully designed and crafted! Love the secret lid!

Fantastic job.

Keep it up.

Scrappy

-- Scrap Wood's the best...the projects are smaller, and so is the mess!

View MsDebbieP's profile

MsDebbieP

14159 posts in 1052 days


posted 161 days ago

For the contest, you have my vote! :)

the “secret” – ingenious!
the “seal” – I thought it was an alien create or “the bad moon”

love the title; love the wood; love the box design; love the box

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

View jockmike2's profile

jockmike2

7297 posts in 1138 days


posted 161 days ago

I’m with Ms. Deb. It’s an Alien on the box top. I think that’s how Andy come’s up with these ingenious inventions. He’s an Alien or he has Alien plans from Area 51. They are not of this world. “The truth is out there.”

-- Mike. mwurm13@yahoo.com

View Loucarb's profile

Loucarb

938 posts in 337 days


posted 161 days ago

That is an amazing design and a gorgeous box. Well done.

View bowyer's profile

bowyer

342 posts in 288 days


posted 161 days ago

Th e box on designe and wood alone warranted an “Amazing” But the secret tray in the lid and the operation of it are outstanding

Rick

-- If at first you don't succeed...Don't try skydiving

View Douglas Bordner's profile

Douglas Bordner

3424 posts in 955 days


posted 161 days ago

Super sweet!

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

View a1Jim's profile

a1Jim

16558 posts in 469 days


posted 161 days ago

Super box cool design looks wonderful

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

View getneds's profile

getneds

146 posts in 248 days


posted 161 days ago

Sweeeeet. I’m likin the hidden compartments. Always did, Nice Box and I like the way the lid kinda sits inthe edges as opposed to being flush

-- Woodshop supplies at bulk discounts. www.getneds.com

View Andy's profile

Andy

570 posts in 800 days


posted 161 days ago

This is looking to the front showing how the handle rides on the brass rods and two of the four magnets.
The magnet that is visible in the handle is attracted to one not shown but directly behind the one visible in the maple.The one visible in the maple also repels the one in the medallion (not shown)
So that makes three attracting and two opposing.

w!

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

View Douglas Bordner's profile

Douglas Bordner

3424 posts in 955 days


posted 161 days ago

Thanks for the updated image, Andy but for those of us that skipped Physics class for a wasted teenhood…
how does the opposing polarity work exactly.

Brass rod through medallion holes – holds lid fixed shut.
Magnet in vertical element of the maple rabbet is in opposing polarity to the magnet at the edge of the myrtlewood medallion – which provides a push off – opening the medallion tray.
Opposing side of vertical element maple mag is in attraction to the mag on the pull, and that and the brass rod holds the pull in place when at rest?

That right?
This IS Rocket Surgery!

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

View Andy's profile

Andy

570 posts in 800 days


posted 161 days ago

lock

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

View Andy's profile

Andy

570 posts in 800 days


posted 161 days ago

You got it Douglas,pretty simple really.I have always been fascinated with magnets and started playing with The neodymium,or rare earth magnets have tremendous push/pull even in the 1/4’’ size.
These can pick up over one pound.Many place sell them now including this site
http://www.forcefieldmagnets.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_37&products_id=83

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

View Andy's profile

Andy

570 posts in 800 days


posted 161 days ago

Thanks for the votes everyone.
Thats pretty funny Jockmike.Maybe its true…...

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

View Spoontaneous's profile

Spoontaneous

166 posts in 222 days


posted 161 days ago

Thinking outside the box… inside the box. Those guys are right, this is in it’s own league. Magnets?! Sheesh!

View odie's profile

odie

1601 posts in 732 days


posted 160 days ago

Looking good Andy … It looks good on Flickr too.

-- Odie, Confucius say, "He who laughs at one's self is BUTT of joke". http://woodstermangotwood.blogspot.com/ (my funny blog)

View David A. P.'s profile

David A. P.

28 posts in 456 days


posted 160 days ago

Very clever compartment mechanism, and a beautiful box! Bravo!

-- David A. P. -- Ars Arboris ("Art of the Tree") -- ArsArboris.com

View dickn's profile

dickn

5 posts in 389 days


posted 160 days ago

Great job! Pure genius in designing and engineering the mechanics of the box. Oh, to be half as skilled…....Thanks for sharing!

-- Dick, Bettendorf Iowa

View Nic's profile

Nic

43 posts in 364 days


posted 160 days ago

fantastic.

View cabinetmaster's profile

cabinetmaster

8462 posts in 450 days


posted 160 days ago

WOWEEEEEEEE….. You would have had my vote in that contest. Now you really have me hooked on these boxes. Nice job.

-- Jerry--A man can never have enough tools or clamps

View Andy's profile

Andy

570 posts in 800 days


posted 160 days ago

A better shot of the handle.I had to grind a flat spot on this magnet….not a good idea because of the nasty chemicals,but I played it safe and held my sleeve over my mouth.Cool colored sparks too.

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

View Durnik150's profile

Durnik150

536 posts in 213 days


posted 160 days ago

A stupendously beautiful box! And thanks for the link to the magnet supplier. I went there and placed an order. I’ve always wanted to incorporate magnets into the boxes. Now I can.

Keep up the great work!

-- Behind the Bark is a lot of Heartwood----Charles, Centennial, CO

View Andy's profile

Andy

570 posts in 800 days


posted 160 days ago

Thank you all for the nice comments!I am glad that all of you are so excited about the magnets.I think there are many possibilities in woodworking.Perhaps a contest is in order,just to see what cool ideas the Jockeys come up with.

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

View Douglas Bordner's profile

Douglas Bordner

3424 posts in 955 days


posted 159 days ago

I’m sure it was your OSHA compliant sleeve, Andy. Safety First =^D

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

View Kent Shepherd's profile

Kent Shepherd

805 posts in 178 days


posted 159 days ago

WOW!!!! I want to be like you when I grow up.

Love your work————-Great workmanship and design. The word genius comes to mind.
Thanks

-- Kent Shepherd * The goal is-----More Tools!

View blade's profile

blade

2 posts in 969 days


posted 158 days ago

I’m new to this but I love the magnet idea. Still not sure I understand the whole project. I would love to be able to build even a simple box like one of yours let alone this one . That for me, would be a crowning achievment. I have the equipment just need the use of my hands (arthritis)and the time to learn. I think you are an “Angel in disguise” to be so generous to those of us that require so much help to create beautiful boxes for others to enjoy.I thank you for your generosity

-- Blade Reworking Old & Discarded Wood T New.

View Prince's profile

Prince

4 posts in 158 days


posted 158 days ago

It Interesting! a beautiful box.I want to get one.
wooden garden bench

View Allens's profile

Allens

11 posts in 495 days


posted 158 days ago

I have been looking forward to the beginning of the tutorial. http://lumberjocks.com/Argyllshire/blog/9415 Thanks Andy, I know its a lot of work.

-- Paul & Kathy Allen

View Andy's profile

Andy

570 posts in 800 days


posted 158 days ago

Thanks for the vote and posting the link Paul/Kathy.

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

View SgtSnafu's profile

SgtSnafu

63 posts in 163 days


posted 156 days ago

You did a superb job on this box, and the magnet idea is very good to – Thanks for sharing..

-- ~ SgtSnafu - Central North Carolina

View Richard R Soper's profile

Richard R Soper

15 posts in 131 days


posted 129 days ago

Craftsmanship !

-- Rsoper rreposs@optonline.net

View Rick's profile

Rick

63 posts in 102 days


posted 101 days ago

I’ve made a total of 6 things so far in my hobby and every one of them had conceled magnets. They’re just cool.
How do you go about making the pillow effects? I love that. If I were to attempt it I suppose I would do all of the pillow forming with a scrapping card. Ya??

View Andy's profile

Andy

570 posts in 800 days


posted 99 days ago

Thanks Rick.There are several ways to achieve the pillowed top,but I prefer to remove most of the wood with an angle grinder with a sanding disc on it.This allows me to rock side to side in a natural motion and see what I am doing.I fine tune the shape with a random orbit sander.

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

View blockhead's profile

blockhead

292 posts in 200 days


posted 92 days ago

I am in awe! Beautifully designed and crafted. Amazing work! Thank you for posting!!

-- Brad, Oregon- Wood, it's what's for dinner.

View RexMcKinnon's profile

RexMcKinnon

652 posts in 87 days


posted 73 days ago

I just made a box with magnets. Does not compare to yours but it turned out all right. I see one major flaw in your box though. Lets say you hide something valuable in your secret compartment. A burgler enters your house and is looking for the jackpot. He sees this box on the dresser and vola. Only he does not even look inside… He takes the box becaue any fool could see the box itself is worth just as much as the contents. He then steals the box sells it to someone and the new owner never even knows about the secret compartment. This box is flawed! You need to either super glue it to your dresser or send it to me. I’ll take good care of it.

-- If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail!

View Andy's profile

Andy

570 posts in 800 days


posted 73 days ago

@Brad-thanks for the kind words.
@Rex-You have a point.My wife is keeping an eye on this one and I need to carefully think about who gets it…if anyone.ha

-- " If I can make it,so can you" Andy in Oregon

You must be signed in to post the comments.

  • View all advertisers
  • Advertise with us

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

GardenTenders.com :: gardening showcase