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Project by kaerlighedsbamsen posted 08-25-2015 12:22 PM 2050 views 6 times favorited 19 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Stumbled across this interesting design and thought i would try making one to test it out and share my findings here.

The wedge at the top locks all parts together and it is impossible to move the arms once locked. Base 32×32mm and arms 12×12mm. Ash, hardened nails for concrete and bees wax polish.




A few weeks ago I bought a box full of nice old planes. Gave the whole bunch a brief touch up and a little oil. Especially the rebate plane and dovetail planes in the center turned out nice. German origin and made from horbeam. The clamps in the background is the type Krenov advocates in his books.

The seller was a recent buyer of a house where the planes had ben sitting in the basement and knew nothing about them.



In the box were also some bits and piezes including this rather sad looking thing. Obviously a crude, homemade marking gauge. Thought “Hmm – junk” and threw it in the forewood bin.



Then the next day i stumbled across this picture form a antique store selling an old tooll cabinet full of old, Scandinavian tools. Nice stuff. Ran and digged the thing out of the firewood again. Called the antique store but they had sold the cabinet years ago and did not know what happened to it or where it came from.



A crop of above picture. Obviously the same design! Newer seen this type before.



An extencive image search on Google revealed exactly one marking gauge of similar design. The souce is a interior design centered blog and they knew nothing of the origin either. Bummer.



Drew up a sketch and went woodworking. This is an earlyer sketch that has the wedge at the bottom like the one i found. Changed that later to the top position like the one in the images in order not to get the wedge in the way.

Readers in the US will perhaps note that this is ISO projection (First Angle)



And there you have it. Woks great and the cross-movement lock means that the parts do not move when being locked.

I have no idea where the design comes from other than that is has been used in Denmark. Please, if you have any information on this design do share it!

Hope you found this as interesting as i did.
Let me know if there are comments or questions!

-- "Do or Do not. There is no try." - Yoda





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#1 posted 08-25-2015 12:44 PM

Very interesting, very unique too. Some obscure inventer of this design will never get the credit he deserves. Shame!

-- "I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The point is to bring them the real facts." - Abraham Lincoln

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#2 posted 08-25-2015 01:03 PM

Fun,cool and special.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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kaerlighedsbamsen

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#3 posted 08-25-2015 02:03 PM

Thanks guys!
@Oldtool: Totally agree. Realy hope someone chimes in with information so credit can be given!

-- "Do or Do not. There is no try." - Yoda

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#4 posted 08-25-2015 02:12 PM

Heyhey- Look what came up on ebay?:

Sadly the auction has ended.. Nice detail with the brass thumb screw. So now there is knowledge of a whole of 3 original ones..

-- "Do or Do not. There is no try." - Yoda

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#5 posted 08-25-2015 06:48 PM

Smart.

-- My englisch is bad but how is your dutch?

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#6 posted 08-25-2015 06:56 PM

Sweet, what a kewl find and remake

-- Wood and Glass they kick (well you know) Have a great day - Dug

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#7 posted 08-25-2015 08:18 PM

Thank you. Glad to inspire!

-- "Do or Do not. There is no try." - Yoda

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#8 posted 08-25-2015 08:40 PM

It’s a neat design but I don’t think I’d trust myself to be able to hold both arms in place well enough to lock them down without losing one or both settings.

I’m a little surprised we don’t see marking gauges with multiple gauge arms more often (other than mortise gauges), but maybe it’s because it’s easier to remember what each separate marking gauge is for, rather than trying to remember what each side of a single marking gauge is for.

I remember seeing a really neat one that could independently hold something like 8+ settings at once. I could have sworn I saw it on LJ but I can’t seem to find it right now.

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#9 posted 08-25-2015 08:53 PM

Could it be this one you are thinking of..?
(Think it was a april fool….)

The cross positioning of the arms and wedge makes setting and locking easy and no settings move when thightened.

-- "Do or Do not. There is no try." - Yoda

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#10 posted 08-25-2015 10:20 PM

Ha, that wasn’t the one I was thinking of but the concept is the same! The one I thought I remembered was basically a homemade version of this, but with square rods and a polygonal body instead of round rods and a round body. I might have seen it in one of the swap threads.

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#11 posted 08-25-2015 11:12 PM

Tink you got a point that it must be difficult to remember all that different settings and easyer to remeber different gauges for different jobs.
Would love to see the other, homemade one!

-- "Do or Do not. There is no try." - Yoda

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#12 posted 08-26-2015 12:29 AM

That is a great design.

-- Scott Smith, Southern Illinois

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#13 posted 08-26-2015 09:15 AM

Thank you for.sharing.
Truly those people are.more ingenious than we with all our electric and electronic gadgets!

-- shuja

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#14 posted 08-27-2015 04:13 PM

Thanks guys!
Yes, Shuja, necessity sure is the mother of invention. We owe a lot to those inventive nad clever craftsmen of the past

-- "Do or Do not. There is no try." - Yoda

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#15 posted 08-27-2015 04:29 PM

That is really cool. It will be a favorite!!

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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