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This is a small bowl turned from lacewood. I probably wont turn a lacewood bowl again until I purchase much harder turning tools. This thing was a pain the the rear. Normally I let projects marinate on top of my TV but this one got shoved onto a top shlef in my shop. I finally decided to do some simple finish sanding and coat it with 5 coats of General gloss clear. I would have liked to have turned the tool marks out of the inside of the bowl but I got ahead of myself when I had it reverse chucked and I cut the bottom flat. Cest la Vie!
-- Steffen
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oscorner
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posted 531 days ago
The thickness is nice and even and the color is great. Sometimes we get so excited, we just can’t wait to see the finished product and…Oops. I think it gives it an added flare.
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mot
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posted 531 days ago
How did you chuck this, Steffen?
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Steffen
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posted 531 days ago
I started out by screwing the blank to a face plate so I could rough the outside and turn a tenon on the bottom. Then I put it in my Oneway scroll chuck and turned the inside of the bowl. Then I turned it around again and put it in the Oneway chuck with the Oneway mini jumbo jaws and turned the tenon off the bottom.
It was a lot of chucking and re-chucking for such a small bowl. Plus, it would almost be worth the expense to have a second chuck to mount the mini jumbo jaws because they are a pain to take on and off. (I know I’m gonna loose a screw one of these days)
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-- Steffen
Dorje
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posted 531 days ago
How was it turning the lacewood?
-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA
Steffen
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posted 531 days ago
I didn’t like it. It was very very hard and it dulled my tools very quickly.
-- Steffen
Dorje
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posted 531 days ago
I’ve always admired lacewood, but never thought about turning it. So, would you do it again? I’m guessing – no, but you tell me!
-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA
Steffen
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posted 531 days ago
yes I would do it again but with much better tools…it really needs a really sharp edge and with the crown tools I have they are just too soft and don’t hold the edge well enough. It’s a very beautiful wood…
-- Steffen
Dorje
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posted 531 days ago
What tools would you go for?
-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA
Steffen
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posted 531 days ago
something like a Cryogenically treated M2 HSS. According to what I’ve read they hold an edge somewhere around 6 times longer. Then there are the hamlet tools which are made by powdered metallurgy technology and they hold an edge 4-5 times longer than stander M2 HSS.
I haven’t been doing it long enough to really know the difference. I bought my set of 8 crown tools from CL for $75. I’ve decided they are going to be my training tools for sharpening and all that so I don’t mess up the nice tools when I buy them. The tools I have are really great and for everything except that lacewood bowl they have been more than enough. I would like a scraper with a longer handle but I can just make a new handle for the one I’ve got, although that means buying the bed extension for my jet mini-lathe.
-- Steffen
Dorje
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posted 531 days ago
Sounds good on the tools! I just have that Jet mini too, and cannot wait to upgrade!!! I really want to turn big bowls! But, I keep spending my dough on other tools that seem to be priorities…
$75 for the Crown tools was a steal! When I got my little lathe off of CL, there was a set of Sorbys (not complete by any stretch) and I picked those up too. I imagine they’re pretty similar to the Crowns? Are the Crowns standard HSS? Those Hamlet tools ARE impressive.
-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA
Steffen
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posted 531 days ago
Yeah, I don’t have the dark handled crown tools…mine are just standard HSS. Nice wood box and all…I think I got a pretty good deal on them. My next purchas is going to be the 8” delta grinder with the wolf system…
-- Steffen
Dorje
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posted 530 days ago
Exactly! I just picked up the Wolverine with a 25% rockler coupon and have the 8” Delta VS grinder on the list, but I have a 6” grinder and two individual 1725 motors that are set up for grinding, so I’m a bit hesitant to leave the old (very functional) set ups behind!
One of the motors is used with that Veritas grinding jig and the other with a shop made support to hold the Vari-grind jig, wihich I purchased on its own, before getting the main Wolverine jig.
-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA
HandsOgold
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posted 529 days ago
Lacewood is indeed a bitch to work with.BUT look at the results. You coulda turned the bowl outa pine, but then what would you have. the easier a project the less total satisfaction.
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Karson
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posted 529 days ago
Great looking bowl. Looking at the reflection in the middle of the third picture, did the wood shrink after it was turned>
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Jon3
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posted 528 days ago
Nice bowl!
I was tempted by those jumbo jaws, so I could snip the tenons off the bottom, but I’m holding out for a while until I upgrade into a full size lathe so I can get the larger ones.
Steffen
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posted 525 days ago
Karson,
The wood was a little difficult to see the variations while turning it. I should have rubbed some oil into it while I was turning it. that’s just bad tool work on the bottom exagerated by the gloss finish.
-- Steffen
Steffen
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posted 525 days ago
Thanks HandsOgold I appreciate the encouragment…
-- Steffen
mot
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posted 525 days ago
Thanks for the reply on chucking, Steffen. I was wondering if you used vacuum chucking. The cole jaws are something I just ordered. I’ve been turning a dovetail recess into my bowls to chuck them with exspansile jaws. I like the security of the tenon but don’t want to go nutty with vacuum chucking.
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Steffen
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posted 525 days ago
Tom,
I looked at the vacuum chuck and it seemed a little too elaborate for me right now. I imagine when I get into more complicated projects it may come in handy. Most of the articles I’ve read about other turners seem to show less not more when it comes to tools. I don’t know, maybe we all have to go through the begining phase where more seems better. I watched a video I got off of netflix of Raffin turning boxes…dang he makes it look simple…using only three tools.
Has anyone seen the video on the woodworkers channel of the guy who turned the 600+ lb oak log into a table base? It’s pretty amazing.
-- Steffen
Dorje
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posted 525 days ago
Haven’t seen that one, but have seen the Raffan and Stubbs bowl turning videos. Also, a kind of funny find from the library (worth watching though):
Wood turning into art [videorecording] / featuring, Jerry Crowe.
[S.l] : HandyCraft Media Productions, c2005.
Other Authors: Crowe, Jerry
Handy Craft Media Productions.
Call#: DVD 684.083 W95089 2005
Description: 1 videodisc (73 min.) : sd., col. ; 4 3/4 in.
Summary: Demonstrates techniques for turning wood into lasting art treasures. Covers from the selection of the wood to be used through all the processes to the finishing touches.
Notes: DVD.
ISBN: 0976779730
If you have access to the videos on FWW, have you seen the Turn a Green Wood Bowl series?
-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA
Don
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posted 497 days ago
Very nice, Steffen. Your work is very crisp and I like the way you photograph your work – quite professional.
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Douglas Bordner
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posted 496 days ago
Love the bowl, but I am particularly drawn to the concentric rings on the bottom. Nice touch!
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PanamaJack
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posted 496 days ago
Beautiful turning. All the way around, just fantastic.
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