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Project by Mattyboy posted 06-25-2015 08:45 PM 1774 views 11 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I’d been disgusted with eBay, Etsy and tool dealers, so I researched moulding planes and decided to try making some of my own. Here are three pairs – #6, #8 and #10 (using the “sixteenths” nomenclature). On five of these I cheated by making them from laminations. For those who want to know how, I wrote a full blog about it here. The sixth plane (the 1/2” radius hollow) was mortised by hand and cleaned up with chisels (no floats).

Since this is experimental, I used wood that I had on hand – nothing quartersawn or even all that hard. I think the wood is alder, but not sure. Finished with three coats of BLO. The iron blanks came from Lie-Nielsen and were a bear to shape as I have no grinder.

The last picture shows a typical profile that I’ll be able to make using these planes.

I have a question for you. I made the #6 hollow a little different from the others, based on an old moulding plane that I have. Typically, H&R planes have a chamfer on the left side, tapering to the bottom. On this plane I put a chamfer on the right side as well. I’m uncertain about whether or not this is ever done with H&R planes, but one of the old ones I’ve got was made that way.

Disclaimer: No electrons were harmed in the making of these planes.

-- Matt, Northern CA





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Tim

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#1 posted 06-25-2015 10:27 PM

Fantastic job. I can’t help with your questions as I’m still on the lookout for some hollows and rounds. I may end up making some too. What resources did you use to figure out how to make them?

Oh and if you like using no electrons, have a look for a hand crank grinder. Works pretty well if you’re not afraid of a little work.

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#2 posted 06-25-2015 11:55 PM

You’ve done some really nice work here.
Do you think you will re-make the bodies with higher quality wood or just use them as is until you have a problem?
My guess is that they will be just fine fo a long time.
Thanks for showing us these.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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cutmantom

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#3 posted 06-26-2015 01:32 AM

Looks great, Adler I think is a little soft but then so what, when it wears out just make another one, one thing I’ve always wondered is why is the top part of the plane rabbeted, the only thing I’ve come up with is you only have to make one dimension of wedge and the mortise might be easier to chop out if it’s smaller

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#4 posted 06-26-2015 03:34 AM

Great job, getting ready to make some myself, plus the floats to make them. Yeah, screw quartersawn! Sort of. Got some 8/4 beech and will laminate to go with a poor man’s QS. There’s a guy on ebay selling QS beech blanks for these but he’s out of stock now. Says he’ll have some more later, not sure when. He does have a QS beech board, just not willing to spend $ to ship that to me.

Tim – I got Larry Williams’s DVD for how to make them and Matthew Bickford’s DVD on how to use them, both are tremendously helpful.

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#5 posted 06-26-2015 04:23 AM

Thanks everybody.
Tim, I have Garrett Hack’s “The Handplane Book”, which has been very helpful. But I’ve also found some neat things on the internet. One of them is from Handplane Central where there is a reprint of a very old article by W. J. Armour. I think the H&R info is in part 2 of the article. I also looked recently at hand crank grinders, but (as usual) got slapped away by eBay – more frustration.

Paul, I hope to use them as long as the soles will hold out. I don’t do much with moulding now, but I hope to do more in the future. If the planes don’t hold up, I have some harder maple that is begging to be made into planes.

Cutmantom, I’m guessing the rabbeted tops of these planes is for comfort. The smallest of these planes (sizes up to 3/8” radius) have no rabbet, but I believe they have a consistent handhold width.

ColonelTravis, I’d love to hear how you get on with making the floats, and the planes. I’d seen an article or two about making floats and it’s tempting. Though, without any power tools at my disposal I’m thinking it would be pretty tough. Regarding using QS wood, I know it’s traditional and it’s used for good reason, but laminating should be a great compromise. I read that Todd Herrli recommends laminating when good QS stock is unavailable or too expensive.

-- Matt, Northern CA

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WhoMe

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#6 posted 06-26-2015 02:39 PM

I have always wanted to make some hollows and rounds. Nice job. As traditional as it is to make the bodies out of one piece of wood and shape with floats, I will most likely laminate the bodies.
Now the irons are a different story.
Did you heat treat the irons?

Bookmarking this thread for future for sure.

-- I'm not clumsy.. It's just the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies, the wall gets in the way AAANNNDDD table saws BITE my fingers!!!.. - Mike -

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#7 posted 06-26-2015 03:19 PM

Yes, WhoMe, I heat treated the irons. I just did my first ever heat treating with these irons. I set up a couple of cinder blocks to create a small enclosure, open on one end. I used a propane torch (Burns-o-matic, I think) to heat the iron, tested it with a magnet when it was red to orange hot and quenched in canola oil. I tempered in the oven at about 350° for an hour.

Feel free to ask any questions about the build and make sure to see the blog entry about it for a lot more detail.

-- Matt, Northern CA

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ColonelTravis

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#8 posted 06-26-2015 07:30 PM

Matt, I think making the floats isn’t hard just really, really, really tedious. Got 01 tool steel bar – 3/16 thick, 1 inch wide, 18 inches long for at least a side and edge float. There are other designs, don’t know if I need them or want them. Harden them like you did with your blades. I thought about buying them from LN, I tried them out a few months ago, they’re great but I’d rather put that $ elsewhere.

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Wally331

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#9 posted 06-26-2015 08:31 PM

Very nice planes! Nearly identical to the way I made mine, so simple and honestly pretty quick to make. I’m looking to purchase another 4 irons from lie-nielsen this summmer. I want to give complex profiles a try.

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Tim

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#10 posted 06-26-2015 11:33 PM

Nice resource at Handplane Central, thanks.

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Mattyboy

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#11 posted 06-28-2015 12:26 AM

Hey Wally331, I’d love to see how your more complex moulding profiles come out. Good luck with that and I hope we see some of them on LJ.

-- Matt, Northern CA

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uygardogan

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#12 posted 06-29-2015 06:07 PM

Nice idea.
I will plan to make a strip plank boat, i need cove and bead for stripes.

-- cut once, sand twice

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Trey

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#13 posted 07-08-2015 03:47 AM

I really like these. I need a set of bead and cove planes and I can’t find what I’m looking for. Maybe I will build a set!

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Mattyboy

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#14 posted 07-08-2015 05:06 AM

Trey, I’d love to make some bead planes too. But it could be a real challenge getting the profile on the sole. And shaping the iron I’m sure would be a fun exercise with hand tools. If you do make your own, I’d love to know about it.

-- Matt, Northern CA

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Trey

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#15 posted 07-09-2015 03:30 AM

When I do it, I’ll post it here. I need mine to be for a 1/4” bead.

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