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Project by InstantSiv posted 09-21-2014 02:42 AM 1888 views 4 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I thought it was about time I should post a project. My apologies for the photo quality, dark basement with phone’s camera.

I finally made the stand/cart to hold all the components in a more space efficient way. I went with the common cart design out there. Built it with scrap 2×4’s and ply. Prior to this I had the galvanized trash can sitting on the ground next to the original DC. Floor space it took up went from 60-65ish” x 22” to 48”x22”. Another benefit is a little bit better air flow because I designed the separator to blower and blower to HF separator ring to be short and straight shots of hose. I’ve estimated that I spent just under $500 not including the remote switch, I don’t remember off the top of my head how much it was. All said, I’m happy with how it turned out.

Things still to do:
-Replace Y fitting with a 5” to 4” reducer for an even straighter shot of hose between separator and blower
-Seal up any leaky spots
-Orientate the on/off switch correctly. Right now the off position is facing up.
-Paint, green and black

Still thinking about a baffle in the separator. Don’t know if the benefit of more captured dust would offset lower cfm. Right now it’s about the same if not a tad bit higher than stock.





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Nowater

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#1 posted 09-21-2014 02:58 AM

Nice, I am thinking of doing the same thing with my Jet DC, but I may build a top hat instead of the trash can lid setup you have. I have that exact setup and I am thinking a top hat might be better for routing the piping in my shop.

Any pitfalls to this project that you would care to share?

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#2 posted 09-21-2014 03:18 AM

Yeah the top hat sure does have better routing for my needs. I need to do something about the 90+ degree kink in the hose where it connects to the separator. The lid I got would be better connecting to a vertical trunk type setup…

Pitfalls… No major ones. The thing I would go back and change would be research. I didn’t know what I got myself into when I purchased the DC. At one point I saw a YouTube vid of a thein baffle and on a whim broke the DC down and started making the baffle… It was complicated and I was seriously doubting the whole idea because I didn’t know much about DC. I stopped, put it back together, and spent a good couple of months researching.

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#3 posted 09-21-2014 04:28 AM

Looks like you upgraded the filter and have all the bases covered. Which filter is it?

-- Brad, Texas, https://www.youtube.com/user/tonkatoytruck/feed

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#4 posted 09-21-2014 11:26 AM

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#5 posted 09-21-2014 08:12 PM

Just a thought…. Is there a way to hard pipe a couple 90 degree elbows before it goes into your metal can with a small lenght of straight pipe shooting down along side your trash can, then hook your flex hose to the hard pipe and avoid a kink in your flex hose. Not sure if you can attach the hard pipe to the metal can flange. Just thinkin’

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#6 posted 09-23-2014 03:01 AM

I actually have a 9’ or so length of 4” hose. I thought about what you suggested but using the flex hose. Not sure what exactly I will do because when I change the y fitting to a 5” to 4” fitting the trash can’s location will move. Need to do that first.

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#7 posted 09-24-2014 09:34 PM

I bought a 5” to 4” metal pipe adapter at Home Depot in the aisle with air conditioning stuff. It is 7” or 8” long and was inexpensive.

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#8 posted 09-25-2014 12:25 PM

Thanks for the suggestion Nowater. I’ll definitely check it out on my next trip there.

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#9 posted 09-28-2014 12:32 AM

I got the 5” to 4” fitting. I got it to work but the 4” part of the fitting is too big. I had to bend it in to fit the hose and bend it back out. After fiddling with it it’s on there good. I now have a straight shot from the separator to the blower. I noticed a slight increase in suction. It also makes removing the trash can easier. Thanks again No water for the suggestion.

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#10 posted 10-07-2014 07:08 PM

Well, I took your design and ran with it. I also got the Wynn filter you said you used.

Hope you do not mind me posting a photo of my DC cart for you.

-- Brad, Texas, https://www.youtube.com/user/tonkatoytruck/feed

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#11 posted 12-22-2014 01:25 AM

Nice! I did the same thing and still have an upgraded filter on the never ending “list” to buy. For anyone thinking about doing this, i did find a few things with mine.

1. by drilling some new holes and letting the bag overhang the edge slightly, i was able to use the bottom of the cart that came with the HF DC.
2. the Thien style baffle is greatly simplified by using a 32 gallon brute garbage can. make sure to spend the extra for the brute, the cheap ones are much less $$, but they will implode, don’t ask me how i know that :)
3. the Brute trash can has one more benefit, i made my thein portion of the separator so that it rested on the inner lip of the trash can, it is at the perfect height and you don’t need any fasteners!

great projecct!

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#12 posted 12-31-2014 03:35 AM

Thanks UwpEngineer! I would make the upgraded filter a priority. It’s one of those things that seems like a lot but once you have it you wouldn’t think twice to replace it.

I wanted a brute but my trash can lid separator only fit the galvanized can.

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