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First Veneer Project-Sideboard

Project by tenontim posted 399 days ago 1060 views 6 times favorited 18 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I designed this piece, in the Arts and Crafts style, for our new house. This sideboard is my first project using veneer. The large side and back panels, and the door panels are veneer, glued onto mdf, using the titebond-iron on method. The veneer and the lumber used are quarter sawn white oak. I was very pleased with the results. I want to especially thank Lee Jesberger for his advise on the procedures to use to get this completed. His web site on veneering has a wealth of information. http://www.prowoodworkingtips.com/Veneering_Index.html . My wife has plans for this sideboard, but it’s going to spend the next 2 months at the Texas Furniture Makers Show, and if no one buys it, then she can fill it up.

-- Tim -- http://tmuli.com


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Karson

25794 posts in 1292 days


posted 399 days ago

Very nice Tim. I like the curved flow of the rails on the tops of the doors.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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SCOTSMAN

2238 posts in 477 days


posted 399 days ago

This is a truly beautiful piece everything I like in woodworking is practically here the design, the oak, well done regards Alistair

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Beginningwoodworker

4101 posts in 565 days


posted 399 days ago

Tim thats a beautiful sideboard.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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PaBull

292 posts in 557 days


posted 399 days ago

Tim, I like it a lot. Thanks for sharing!

-- http://www.twinoaksgrowers.com

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Bigbuck

1366 posts in 555 days


posted 399 days ago

Great looking sideboard, nice job.

-- Glenn, New Mexico

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SPalm

944 posts in 774 days


posted 399 days ago

That is darn right pretty. I really like it.

-- Stevethepeeve -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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CessnaPilotBarry

1262 posts in 594 days


posted 399 days ago

I think it’s a terrific looking piece, both in design and execution, but why not just use solid stock on an item like this?

I’m not anti-veneer at all, but I seem to miss the point here… QSWO isn’t exotic, and it moves far less in the cross-grain direction than many other species, so it makes excellent solid panels.

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tenontim

1319 posts in 636 days


posted 399 days ago

Thanks everyone for the nice compliments.

Barry, I’ve been wanting to use veneer, mainly for the ability to book match the panels. I have 14” panels in this piece, and even with qswo, they can move up to 1/4”. With the veneer, I don’t have to worry about any movement, which lets me glue the panels in the frame, thus making a more stable piece of furniture. I don’t believe the veneer makes a cheaper piece of furniture, and Lord knows, it’s not less work than milling up solid panels. It’s a time honored, quality furniture building procedure. I think this has opened a new door for me in my furniture building (after 30 years of staying away from it).

-- Tim -- http://tmuli.com

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Bob #2

3033 posts in 913 days


posted 399 days ago

Nice piece Tim. that will outlast you for sure.

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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rhett

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posted 399 days ago

Nice looking piece. Better plan on making your wife another one, since your putting that one up for sale.

-- http://www.efcabineture.com/ You can be tired, or you can be broke, but you should never be tired and broke.

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CessnaPilotBarry

1262 posts in 594 days


posted 399 days ago

Thanks, Tim! Book matching sense to me.

I was trying to understand, I KNOW it’s more work to veneer! <g>

The 1/4” over 14” estimate sounds awfully high to me for QSWO. I would use that for flat sawn stock. I have a sideboard I made, that’s been in a non-central air conditioned, New England building for 5+ years, with 20” wide panels that were made with a 3/16” over 20” allowance.

I personally own 100 year old QSWO items of solid wood that are as strong as the day they were made. Some have a second stile splitting the end panel in two 8-10” panels, but several have 12-14”+ panels. I do not think of veneering as “cheap” at all, but as a technique for things like large conference tables, patterned inlay, $20 bd/ft. exotics, etc… I’ve done it myself.

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tenontim

1319 posts in 636 days


posted 399 days ago

Here’s a chart for those that are interested in approximate wood movement, so you can figure it out.
10% is a worse case senario.

SPECIES QUARTERSAWN FLATSAWN
ALDER (RED) 0.0015 0.0026
ASH (WHITE) 0.0017 0.0027
ASPEN (QUAKING) 0.0012 0.0023
BASSWOOD 0.0023 0.0033
BEECH 0.19 0.0043
BIRCH (YELLOW) 0.0026 0.0034
BUTTERNUT 0.0012 0.0022
CHERRY (BLACK) 0.0013 0.0025
FIR (BALSAM) 0.0001 0.0024
MAHOGANY 0.0017 0.0024
MAPLE (RED) 0.0014 0.0029
MAPLE (SUGAR) 0.0017 0.0035
OAK (RED) 0.0016 0.0037
OAK (WHITE) 0.0018 0.0037
PINE (EAST WHITE) 0.0007 0.0021
PINE (LONGLEAF) 0.0018 0.0026
PINE (PONDEROSA) 0.0013 0.0022
POPLAR (YELLOW) 0.0016 0.0029
SWEETGUM 0.0018 0.0037
SYCAMORE 0.0017 0.003
TEAK 0.001 0.0019
WALNUT (BLACK) 0.0019 0.0027

Movement Value x Board Width x Worst Case M.C. Increase (10%)

—Tim—http://tmuli.com

-- Tim -- http://tmuli.com

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Lee A. Jesberger

3710 posts in 871 days


posted 399 days ago

Hi Tim;

Fantastic project! Your workmanship is top shelf for sure, as is the design.

I was busy admiring the photos, and I was thinking what great looking lumber that was.

I was quite surprised to see it is veneer, and was really shocked to see my name and website. I’m so pleased to have been able to help.

I get almost as much satisfaction from helping out, as I do from making furniture. (something I haven’t had much time to do lately).

My website is undergoing a major remake, less commercialized and easier to navigate. With 350 pages, it’s a huge undertaking, and is very time consuming. I’m going page by page so it will be a while before the new site is completed, but it will be better than ever.

I never imagined it would grow to the size it has, so reorganizing it should make easier to navigate.

Again Tim, A VERY BIG THANK YOU!

Lee

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CharlieM1958

7599 posts in 1110 days


posted 398 days ago

Great job, Tim. A truly beautiful piece! How about some larger photos so we can enjoy it even more?

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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brianinpa

1365 posts in 615 days


posted 398 days ago

That’s a beauty Tim!

-- Brian, Lebanon PA, If you aren’t having fun doing it, find something else to do.

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Topapilot

123 posts in 732 days


posted 398 days ago

Tim,
That looks fantastic! I’m not sure I’m seeing all the detail though, can you post another picture of the draw joinery, and of the door rails? A piece like that deserves great big pictures, and lots of them.
Robb

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tenontim

1319 posts in 636 days


posted 398 days ago

Charlie and Robb, the piece is already wrapped up and headed for the furniture show, so the best I can do is put a larger picture. Thanks for the compliments.

-- Tim -- http://tmuli.com

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Michael Brailsford

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posted 295 days ago

excellent detail

-- Michael A. Brailsford

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