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Project by Arthouse posted 98 days ago 2801 views 2 times favorited 28 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Here is a backwoods Texas sawmill I use for all my logs I get off Texas ranches in the Hill country. The saw is a n old feed mill engine with a hydraulic governor connected to a 52’’ bad ass circular blade with carbide teeth. The hydraulic governor is the keys for it never lets the saw bog down. It is a handmade saw about thirty years old and still cutting straight. I have used many types of cutting , chainsaw mill , bandsaw mill but to have this old guy named Lamar operate the trundle and control the feed is a thing of beauty . I have found that the bandsaw mills always leave a wavy surface on both sides and when dry milling requires at least a 1/2 joined surface before the planer can do it’s work. The circular blade cuts a wide girth but the lumber is always straight and requires little to joint it straight. The other advantage is cost. The circular blade will cut the log shown in one pass in about third seconds. The trundle pull the log back and adjusts for another cut. Eight logs were cut this day in little over three hours at a cost of 350.00 Whereas the the bandsaw mill would have taken over eight hours estimated at a cost of 75.00 and hour it would be around 600.00 dollars . This is my experience with cutting over thirty years of woodworking experience . The only advantage I have seen in a bandsaw mill is it is portable. These are the reasons I use my old buddy Lamar to cut all my Texas hardwoods of black walnut , pecan , elm,black cherry, post oak, and mesquite because I need lumber lumber and more lumber for my craft. All this and Heaven too.

-- "The hand is the cutting edge of the mind but the wind and sun are the healing factors of the heart





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johnstoneb

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#1 posted 98 days ago

Those old circular saw mills were dangerous as hell. That open blade maimed or killed most of the sawyers operating them.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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OldWrangler

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#2 posted 98 days ago

I saw one of these circular saw mills when the blade hit an old piece of embedded chain. The saw shattered or more like exploded. Two helpers got serious cut from the shrapnel. Operator was behind a roof timber where a large 20” piece of blade buried itself. That 12×12 probably saved the operator’s life. I was about 50’ from the mill looking at some previously cut wood and pieces of blade flew past me like bullets. It scared me so bad, I never went back to that mill again.

Bruce is right, this kind of mill is extremely dangerous but still it cuts pretty lumber.

-- If trees could scream, would we still cut them down. We might, if they did it all the time for no good reason

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Dallas

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#3 posted 98 days ago

Bruce, we operated one around West Yellowstone. It didn’t kill my brother or me or my step dad or his partner or the guys that worked with us. 42”, carbide tips, powered by a McCormick Deereing Stationary engine.

Nothing would slow it down and it would probably cut through the hull of the USS Enterprise if you gave it room. It was over 100 years old when we got it so I know it had no safety features.
Funny thing, OSHA never said a thing about the saw but we had to install a spark arrestor on the engine.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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Joe Lyddon

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#4 posted 98 days ago

WOW!

I would think a band saw mill would be a lot more efficient… but…

Good Luck…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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jasonallen

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#5 posted 98 days ago

Now you just need a steam engine to run it!

-- Skill and confidence are an unconquered army.

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#6 posted 98 days ago

Great pics, thanks for sharing!

Safety Moms have to do their thing…

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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wyowill

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#7 posted 97 days ago

I don’t post much around here, but where I live (AK) circular blade mills are still fairly common. Common =/= safe, so take it with a grain of salt. Plenty of mills like this still in service . . .

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Monte Pittman

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#8 posted 97 days ago

I admire the mill. I think safety has a lot to do with the operator. Just like in your shop. By the way, I will say that on my bandsaw mill, with someone stacking for me, I can cut your 8 logs in 3-4 hours with virtually no waves.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it. - It's not ability that we often lack, but the patience to use our ability

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Rockbuster

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#9 posted 97 days ago

Nice to see some things from the past still in operation, and doing a great job,. There are a few of these still in my home state of Pennsylvania, and yes, some of them are run by steam Lets face it guy’s, anything that has anything to do with lumber or woodworking, is dangerous, safety is what you make it. Here is something, that for some reason, makes me very relaxed, every time that I watch it, but some parts of it are dangerous. https://youtube.googleapis.com/v/_mKSKZau9qs?ytsession=4b8r7o9m9bBXaNrlFzVMavo4zAF-M8IP7W5hYcI63Z97TtKijfNIXf3kjdhFE5fcOkf63n7rwobHW1UAKusrqIrdrofL_-wXF1saCDBr9KfGfXwxzsedNN6IPzvqydjSOT2-Ibmh03bRCKj6ciby8A

-- Rockbuster,Ft. Wayne,In It is far better to remain silent, and appear the fool, than it is to open ones mouth, and remove all doubt.

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squaretree

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#10 posted 97 days ago

Great set up. Reminds me of back home.

And +1 for smitty.

-- if you can't find me, just follow the extension cord

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Charles Maxwell

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#11 posted 97 days ago

Great post!

-- Max the "night janitor" at www.hardwoodclocks.com

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summerfi

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#12 posted 97 days ago

Great old mill that has obviously done a good job for you over the years. There have been many millions of feet of lumber cut on similar mills. Don’t knock the bandmills though. With a sharp blade, properly set up, and properly fed, they can cut just as fast, with no waviness in the cut, and do it safer, with a smaller engine at less operating cost. I can cut 1/16” veneer consistently on my bandmill if I choose to. All mills, including bandmills, have their safety issues though. An advantage of bandmills not mentioned is thinner kerf. On high valued timber, this adds up quickly.

-- Bob, Missoula, MT -- "Of all the tools I own, my favorite is a good sharp pocket knife." - My Dad

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recycle1943

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#13 posted 97 days ago

I wonder how many logs were cut prior to the band saw ?

-- Dick, Ohio

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Jim Jakosh

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#14 posted 97 days ago

That’s really neat old saw mill. I better not show this to my mill guy. He has a band mill and charges $40 an hour.

They have two of these old mills in Jerome, Az and use them all the time. There is one operation at the Buckley Old Engine show every year and runs off steam power.
Nice to see they are kept in working order and still useful!!.........Cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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grizzman

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#15 posted 97 days ago

that sure is a sweet saw, i love watching them in action, wish i had one for myself, one thing i must say is that the prices for getting wood off of it is sure high, i had some walnut just done for me and it being around 400BF i paid 100 dollars for it, and it was off a band saw…and i didnt get the wavy parts on the boards..i have had some of that in the past but this load was great….enjoy the saw work, its a work that is so enjoyable, oh the smell of freshly cut wood….

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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