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Project by TZH posted 04-22-2014 03:59 PM 2187 views 2 times favorited 25 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Wait – that would be ME! I don’t know about all the rest of you, but I take some really crappy photos of my finished work most of the time. Can’t afford a pro, so have to settle for my own pics. Not optimum, but guess it’ll have to do.

This project started out as what was supposed to be a large conference table and wound up being about half the size of the original plan because the guy that’s getting it decided he wanted it in his office instead of in his conference room. It went through several iterations (from ponderosa pine to juniper) and a whole lot of starts, stops, and even some frustration along the way. But it’s done now, and I just have to try to wrap my head around the fact it’s finally done.

The top is a combo of juniper and cottonwood. The jointery involves short 1/2” dowels and glue. I’d sold my 6” jointer/planer awhile back so had to do the joints using a circular saw and my tablesaw. Getting back on that tablesaw was a real challenge what with the thumb still being numb from my fight with it. But it got done, and pretty well if I do say so myself.

Anyway, if you’re interested in following the entire process, I have my own blog (didn’t want to duplicate anything here) you can look at here: http://zhawke.blogspot.com/2014/02/conference-room-table-beginnings.html

Thanks for looking.

TZH

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GrandpaLen

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#1 posted 04-22-2014 04:11 PM

Ted, that’s a beauty of a Pedestal Table, the juniper and cottonwood really looks good.

Very nice ‘Fit and Finish’.
Work Safely and have Fun. – Len

-- Mother Nature should be proud of what you've done with her tree. - Len ...just north of a stone's throw from the oHIo, river that is, in So. Indiana.

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#2 posted 04-22-2014 04:20 PM

Looks great. How did you attach the breadboard ends?

-- "My concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." Abraham Lincoln

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TZH

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#3 posted 04-22-2014 04:23 PM

Thanks, guys. JayT, I’ll refer you to this blog post as it goes through the whole process of glue-up: http://zhawke.blogspot.com/2014/04/glue-upto-dowel-or-not-to-dowel-that-is.html

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JayT

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#4 posted 04-22-2014 04:33 PM

I read that blog post earlier, but am not understanding how you are allowing for seasonal wood movement with the wood running in cross directions.

-- "My concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." Abraham Lincoln

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TZH

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#5 posted 04-22-2014 05:00 PM

JayT – hoping wood movement won’t be an issue. This table will be in a controlled office environment, so there should be minimal to no humidity or temperature variations all year round.

The juniper was already very dry when I harvested it as it died in a forest fire along with me letting it dry here for over four years before cutting into it. The cottonwood has been drying now for over three years.

I don’t have a moisture reader, so am trusting that moisture content is minimal. This is the first time I’ve tried anything like this, so I just have to cross my fingers and hope for the best. I’ll be letting the guy who’s getting it know if he has any problems with it, even way down the road, to let me know and I’ll take care of it for him somehow.

TZH

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#6 posted 04-22-2014 05:00 PM

WHAT A BEAUTIFUL TABLE…i always love your projects, your woodwork is using the natural tree, the roots , the whole shabang, and i love it, i just had some red cedar delivered to me along with lots of walnut, i had them mill it at 2 inches thick…so i cant wait to get my hands on it….let me ask you , with red cedar, how fast does it dry for use, seems to me it dries a lot quicker then hardwood…what is your experience…

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#7 posted 04-22-2014 05:12 PM

Very beautiful table. He should love it.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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TZH

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#8 posted 04-22-2014 05:24 PM

JayT, I must also admit while working on this table, I didn’t even give seasonal movement issues a thought. My bad, totally. Any suggestions, post completion, on what I might could oughter do to help minimize if not prevent it altogether before I deliver it? Thanks.

grizzman, I’d have to say juniper/cedar does dry a lot faster in my experience. In my case, much of the juniper I have on hand died in a forest fire nearby, so it dried unnaturally (if you consider a fire to be unnatural – I do only if started by natural causes) very quickly in the fire. A lot of what I use is charred so badly the cleanup is quite messy. Doesn’t matter if I use a power washer or angle grinder, I either get muddy or the airborne sawdust turns to mud when I sweat into it. Either way, very messy indeed. I saw the photos of your gloat. Jealous. I’m hoping some of the urban walnut that’s coming down in Aurora becomes available this summer for free. Seems there’s some kind of disease affecting them (they’re not native to this area to begin with), and tens of thousands of them will be cut down by the city. Harvesting them would be a joy!

TZH

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#9 posted 04-22-2014 05:39 PM

wow, that is so beautiful, great work

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#10 posted 04-22-2014 06:35 PM

That is awesome, I’ve never attempted anything with a natural edge so to speak, I admire all those who do

-- Wood and Glass they kick (well you know) Have a great day - Dug

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JayT

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#11 posted 04-22-2014 06:38 PM

No ideas. I was asking from a learning perspective, not a knowledgeable one. I will be making a new dining table for our home this summer and might do breadboard ends, so am looking at various ways others have attached them to see what my options are. Right now I am thinking pegged loose tenons.

Wood will move regardless of what you do, so all you can do is allow for it, not try to stop it. Figuring out how and how much is the challenge, and one I am still working on.

BTW, looked at a bunch of the rest of the blog and you did a great job on making those “feet” look like a natural part of the stump. I didn’t even realize they were add-ons until reading the blog.

-- "My concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." Abraham Lincoln

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squaretree

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#12 posted 04-22-2014 06:52 PM

That’s a beautiful table. And I think the picture is just fine.

-- if you can't find me, just follow the extension cord

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TZH

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#13 posted 04-22-2014 07:03 PM

JayT, don’t know if this would be of interest to you, but thought I’d offer it since you’re planning on doing a table of your own. The guy in this link discourages miter joint picture framing methods for this kind of work. Instead, he suggests the breadboard technique (which I used), but his picture shows the side rails as being the longer ones instead of the end ones (which is also what I did). So, time will tell, I guess. You’ll need to go down a ways on the page to find the images and the explanations: http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/A_Finish_Carpenters_Guide_to_Understanding.html

TZH

-- https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dead-Wood-Renaissance/361417090585685

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hoss12992

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#14 posted 04-22-2014 07:10 PM

That looks great. Love the edges and the contrasting of the wood. Great job

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#15 posted 04-22-2014 07:14 PM

Wow sweet table very nice and practical too.I know what you say re pics I am constantly sometimes disatisfied with the way mine turn out.I suppose everyone feels this when photgraphing their hard earned workmanship and beautiful designs. Alistair ps go straight to the top of the class.LOL

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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